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Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Research_team_editing), I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.
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Hello Bgwhite, This is my first article and I have just figured out how to contact you so please bear with me. You have deleted my article titled "Darren Woolley" due to a G12 copyright infringement. This article is about Darren Woolley, the CEO of TrintyP3.com. The information in question is about Darren and I have permission from Darren to use it. It is a paraphrased paragraph about his early work life. I don't know how to rewrite this information without mentioning where he started his career. I have also cited his "about Darren Woolley" page on the TrinityP3 website as the source. Can you please give me some direction as to how I can restore this page without having to worry about any further deletions? Much appreciated.Hpe3121 (talk) 07:17, 3 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Hpe3121 This is the right way to contact me. The problem is that under U.S. Law, there has to be written permission to use copyrighted material. You can use the TrinityP3 webpage as a source, but you will need to put it in your own words.
Not sure what you are doing, but the article looks horrible. The sandbox page is much better. Somehow you are copy/pasting it wrong.
You are going to need to add inline refs, and not just list the refs at the end of the article. See Help:Footnotes for more info.
I'd work on your sandbox page. Remove the copyright problems and work on the refs. When you are ready, give me a yell. I can look it over and then I can hopefully move it to article space. Bgwhite (talk) 07:28, 3 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Thank you Bgwhite. This is a big help. I will follow your advice and get back to you when I have updated the article in the Sandbox. Very much appreciated!Hpe3121 (talk) 07:41, 3 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Hello Bgwhite, I worked in the Sandbox and cited all the references as you suggested. Please check my page in the Sandbox to ensure it is ok to cut and paste to my article page - "Darren Woolley".
Also, I don't know why, but when I cut and pasted from the Sandbox to the 'Darren Woolley' page the last time, something weird happened and the page looked horrible. If I have the same issue, can I call on you to help me with this?
ie =>Darren Woolley started his working life as a scientist at the Royal Children’s Hospital Neuropathology Laboratory in Melbourne, Australia, undertaking research in myopathies, neuropathies, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome and Repetitive Strain Injury.
I rewrote it (below) but it is still contains several of the same nouns which can't be helped. It's a tough one. Is this ok?
At the beginning of his career, Woolley worked at the MelbourneRoyal Children's Hospital Neuropathology Laboratory, Australia, as a scientist under Dr Xenia Dennett. The research Woolley carried out was on Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Repetitive Strain Injury, neuropathies and myopathies.
Many thanks and very much appreciated Hpe3121 (talk) 00:23, 4 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Hpe3121 I did some cleaning up. The reason why it looks bad when you copy it over is because you are using tabs. It appears you are copying/pasting from another source and its not in wiki format. Wiki format is not text or html. You might want to use Visual Editor... click the "edit" tab and not the "edit source" tab.
The refs you used in the article were not refs. It needs to source what the previous statement says. If he is the Telecast Liaison, then you need to give the webpage where it says this, not the homepage to the telethon. Without these refs, the page will still be deleted.
I removed the education section, speaking section and the section on the companies. These are not needed. The article is about Woolley, not his company. I'm not sure what to do with the articles and reference sections... the could be refs and combined into the article.
Do you have the ISBN numbers for the books? ISBN should be used over ASIN numbers.
Hello Bgwhite,
I have updated the ref's on the page and deleted the 'References' list that I had originally created.
I have also added the ISBN numbers for the books and tidied up the 'Articles' list using Wiki format.
Please check my page and let me know how I'm doing? Is it ready to go yet?
Thank you for your help once again. I really do appreciate this. Hpe3121 (talk) 04:55, 5 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
I am in the process of getting the correct ISBN numbers.
I have referenced "The Most Powerful People in Advertising since 2005"
I have referenced the first of the last 2 paragraphs in the "Early Working Life and Career" section. I don't know if this reference is ideal. It talks about the host of the show in the text and Darren Woolley isn't mentioned as co-host until you click on the podcast (on the same page) where he is introduced as the co-host. If this is not ok, I won't have a reference for this. Do I have to have one?
I am looking for a reference for the second of the last 2 paragraphs in the "Early Working Life and Career" section. Again, do I have to have a reference? Darren Woolley does this job as a volunteer.
Hpe3121 In theory, every statement needs a reference. The problem with Woolley is he is borderline "notable". The article could still be deleted for Woolley not being notable. The best way to overcome that is to have references about Woolley that doesn't come Woolley or one of his companies. So, showing you have refs for the statements, will head off any deletion. Bgwhite (talk) 06:20, 10 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Ok, thanks - good advice. I have added the correct ISBN to the 2014 book. Still waiting on the 2013 ISBN.
Is the reference for the first of the last 2 paragraphs in the "Early Working Life and Career" section not good.
Would it be better to remove the statements if I can't find a suitable reference?
Also, if I removed the 2013 book until I get the ISBN (and the statements), would it be OK to publish it?
Basically, what more would I need to do to publish it asap? Thanks again, this has been a big learning curve for me. Hpe3121 (talk) 08:34, 10 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Hello again Bgwhite. With regard to my earlier message:
I have removed the unreferenced statements from 'Early Working Life and Career'.
I have also removed the 2013 book as I don't have the correct ISBN.
Please advise if I can publish this on Darren Woolley's Wikipedia page.
Hpe3121 One thing. You say he has been in the AdNews Power 50 since 2005, but the ref is only for 2005. Need to add a ref for each year he was in. After that, copy it over to article space. Bgwhite (talk) 20:49, 11 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Hello Bgwhite, I have updated the citation for the "AdNews Power 50" and "since 2005". I will copy it over to the article space now. I can't thank you enough for your patience and help. Hpe3121 (talk) 01:15, 12 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Hi BG. I've removed all the dross from this article which you had previously removed but was re-added by the article's creator yesterday. Can you continue to keep an eye on it? I'm sort of at my wits end with that editor. See my latest "conversation" with her. Nothing seems to sink in . It all goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished, I guess. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:09, 10 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, your edit here was quite big and just wondering if we could discuss this... there was a lot of content and well-referenced from a book about Miliband's role as Leader of the Opposition so wondering why you thought it needed reverting and if perhaps we should take this to Talk:Ed Miliband. SocialDem (talk) 17:14, 12 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
SocialDem Your content was very well-referenced and written. The edit you made was huge in size with most of it unnecessary. An example is the "One Nation Labour" section. Instead of three large paragraphs, it should be one at most and maybe a {{main|One Nation Labour}} at the top. "Cost-of-living focus" is another as it is three paragraphs which also seem unnecessary. It's common for a current politician to have alot of "stuff" thrown in, which is later paired down after a few years... History has a way of showing what is and isn't important. Bgwhite (talk) 23:41, 12 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Thank you for the help fixing grammatical errors on the Zumrud Gulu-zade page.
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Hi BGWhite,
if you remember that maybe half a year ago you generated for me error lists similar to Check-Wikipedia project for a non-wmf wiki at wikiskripta.eu. I would like to kindly ask you to generate the whole list once again if you would have the time. The dump is available at http://www.wikiskripta.eu/WSdump2.gz
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Hi BGWhite,
Can you please explain why you have marked the 2015 Speedway World Cup Final, 2015 Speedway World Cup Race-off and 2015 Speedway World Cup Event 2 pages for speedy deletion. Similar pages exist for every Speedway World Cup from 2001 to 2013, so why are these allowed if 2015 is not? This took a lot of time to produce and give individual scores for each round of the World Cup. The 2015 Speedway World Cup page is the overall page for the World Cup.
Latest comment: 9 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
In November 2014 you made 7 reverts on this article including 5 within 24 hours. You then protected the page to keep your preferred version. There is no discussion on the talk page and the article never went to AfD. This doesn't look appropriate to me; can you explain further? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:08, 17 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
MSGJ, Sabinbik has been blocked for sock-puppeting. Iggyazalealover99 was a sockpuppet of Sabinik too. Bgwhite is having some health issues, so I decided to reply instead of him. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:27, 18 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
That does not seem to explain it at all. But I'll wait for Bgwhite to respond himself, and I'll wish him/her a speedy recovery. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:04, 20 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
Get Well Soon
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Dear Bgwhite, please get well soon. I have no one else to bother here. The sooner you stop saying unkind things about your mother-in-law, the sooner you'll recover. By the way, I talked with her over the phone. She had a broken claw. Poor thing. Anyway, I hope you like this painting, which I drew specifically for you, to make your page look even nicer. Dontreader (talk) 05:05, 20 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Bgwhite. Thanks for your tidy-up of my recent updates to the HEMTT page. I clearly know more about trucks than I do Wiki editing... I am trying, and learning as I go, but thanks again for the 'little things' that make the page look so much better. Wolpat (talk) 10:32, 29 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Dear User,
As you are one of the contributors to Tunisian Arabic. You are kindly asked to review the part about Domains of Use and adjust it directly or through comments in the talk page of Tunisian Arabic.