Robert McClenon

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Hi Robert,

Could you have a look at my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Romeo_Mancini and tell me if there are enough notes now and if I have taken out the terms that looked not neutral enough? Thank you for your help. Anna Lisa --Anna Lisa33 (talk) 12:02, 20 April 2016 (UTC)Reply



JL WOOD

Hi, I added a lot of citations, especially book citations which I hope help keep the page alive. I was hoping that you would take a look and see how it's shaping up and if you think that I should resubmit it. Thanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:J_Luke_Wood Normanbockwell (talk) 19:36, 31 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

With rare exceptions, notability should be established by so-called independent reliable sources, which means reliable sources not associated with the subject. Nearly all of the references are to books or papers by Wood. Only two of them are independent of him, and only one addresses his work in detail. Please read our policies on notability and reliable sources. Also, please ask for advice at the Teahouse. If you resubmit the draft as it is, I will decline it as showing no material improvement, and will explain to you again that your sources need to be independent of the subject. That is, tell what others have written about him, not what he has written. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:11, 31 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Oh, I'm glad I asked before submitting. So, should I keep the books and citations but add the independent sources, or should i delete the books altogether? I'll also jump on teahouse.Normanbockwell (talk) 00:08, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I suggest adding the independent sources, and moving the books to a Books section of the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:35, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Robert,

I have added the "Citation needed" indicated by Cullen. My difficulty is that there is only catalogue written by the artist, so I got almost all the info from there. I have gone to the teahouse, but the advice was only to tide the notes up avoiding to repeat the same source all the time and putting a code. But I am using the visual form, easier for me and really I do not understand what kind of damage, repeating the source, can do. I understand your complain about adding the bibliography, which I hope is now fine. About the language....here I have problems to solve it to be sincere. I hope as for the notes that Cullen indicated me where were needed,can be indicated where the problem is still present. There is a bit of explanation of paintings, but I never said this is fantastic, just described it. Anyway thank you very very much for saying that the artist is notable, I am really happy about it, because the only reason I want to put wikipedia in English, is that I want him to be known abroad as well. Kind regards, Anna Lisa Anna Lisa33 (talk) 12:29, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Sorry I wanted to say a catalogue written about the artist!Anna Lisa33 (talk) 12:31, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

22:50:15, 31 March 2016 review of submission by Uchu RRFisher


I applied to th AIAA for consideration for an advisory committee position, and without approval or disapproval I did get the comment that my bio was not visible in the Wikipedia, Exact ontemproaries, Edward Weiler, Chris Scolese, James Green, - all of the same department and serving the same agency are listed with basic bactual information. Using these examples I have tried to create a parallel bio free from value adjetives contining only verifiable information concerning period of intense and notable developmdnt for the NASA scientifc research program. I was completely unaware of the policy concerning autobiography - so I stuck to the facts only. I would like to be identifable and factually documented, but do not participate, out of preference, in various forrms of social media. If I have made an error of procedure that disqualifies the addition of my bio, perhaps you could help me make appropriate changes to th ms to make it more acceptable.

Thank you for your attention in this matter, Uchu RRFisher (talk) 22:50, 31 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

I will ask for the advice of other experienced editors at the Teahouse. If your draft biography is an autobiography, some of them may be able to help neutralize it. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:18, 1 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

05:55:51, 1 April 2016 review of submission by Snowyplayer


The reference errors have been fixed. (Snowyplayer (talk) 05:55, 1 April 2016 (UTC))Reply

Ooty article-request your early mediation and dispute resolution

Hi User:Robert McClenon, Please resolve the dispute regarding Ooty article on DRN at the earliest. Being a challenger of un-sourced, biased content, I can not keep debating continuously and endlessly. Regards,--NitinBhargava2016 (talk) 07:14, 3 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

14:33:32, 3 April 2016 review of submission by Pk1416


Dar Robert, thanks for reviewing my post. Your comments are great to help me improve my post. Could you kindly elaborate on what to do. How to format the references? Why footnotes, which header? This is my first wikipedia entry and I am clearly struggling but eager to learn and approve. So I'd really appreciate you taking the time to eplain in more detail what needs to be changes in order to get approved. thanks and have a good sunday

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). Legobot (talk) 04:23, 4 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

BAAITS

Hi Robert, you recently commented on my BAAITS article that I need to add more reliable sources. I have two on there, so I understand that's a low number. I'm wondering what your opinion on the two that I already have is thought? What I mean is: do you think that the ones I do have are reliable? I think they are good, but I just want to make sure that going out and getting similar sources is a good way to proceed from here? Thank you! Stayhomegal (talk) 01:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I will ask for the advice of other editors at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:57, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

How I got it all wrong

This statement should be made to the ArbCom, not to me. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Robert,

Thanks for your comments at ANI and ArbCom. Despite the tone, I still found your comments useful and helpful. However, I have come to explain to you how I got it all this wrong. Firstly, the problem with me about contents creation is that I'm always too impatient to read through the contents and sources before inclusion. Meanwhile I often create a lots of articles. I think I'm just too overzealous! I sometimes mistakenly add the correct source to a different statement. This is what I mean, sometimes, I unintentionally add a source for "statement A" to that of "statement B" and the source for "Statement B" to that of "statement A" due to impatience, making the sources and the contents to appear fake or OR. Secondly, the sockpuppetry is another concerning issue. Honestly, the very first time I joined Wikipedia, I thought it's a social media of some sort where I can put my shameless biography. My first account was blocked and I reopened another account and that was also blocked. I thought the best way to address the reason why the article was deleted is to create another accounts with some unrealistic claim of significance. That was also blocked. I'm not aware of block invasion otherwise I would have follow due process. So, I went to declare my new account to User:RHaworth who permit me to continue editing but not to write about myself. I started writing about notable Nigeria-related topics and at the same time reading the basic policies and guidelines which seemed difficult to understand at that time. This difficulty to understand policy led to the first ANI in 2014. The allegation includes incivility and copyvio. I pleaded and I was not blocked. Since then, I never repeat any of these behavior. Also, I never thought a claim of ACADEMIC will give an impression of dishonesty. I only felt its an informal claim and that is what I take it to be. In fact, I'm not even aware of WP:HONESTY and WP:EXPERT. All of these with the recent recreation of my shameless autobiography amount to a gross misconduct which is enough for an indef block or ban. This I know! The mobbing by the community is simply because they are unhappy with the entire issues. This caused many of them to lose confidence in me as a result. I know the community has brought out my worst contributions and I'm 100% ready to fix the rest under the mentorship of User:Cullen328 and user:Irondome and anyone willing to help. Above all, I need to be rehabilitated. Please I need help, in any capacity you can help. Wikigyt@lk to M£ 20:06, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

15:25:48, 7 April 2016 review of submission by Dantunkuran



Hello Mclenom. How do you request for the deletion of the other page?. Thank you

Katie Rodan at WP:RMTR

Hello Robert. The style of this article is promotional, though the person seems notable. If you are familiar with AfC, why not do whatever fixup you think is appropriate and then approve it in the AfC way? I am unsure if RMTR is supposed to bypass AfC, though I know little about the mechanics. I declined the move just so the status is clear, but will restore it if you are sure this is an OK procedure. The product article at Proactiv looks legit and some experienced editors have worked on it. Maybe one of them would be willing to help. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:08, 8 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I am familiar with AFC. I reviewed the draft via AFC. It appears that you and I had different opinions. I was not trying to bypass AFC, but I cannot accept an article via AFC without a technical move if its title already exists as a redirect. I will review the article again as to tone and will provide feedback to the author. (Notability is established.) Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:13, 8 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
I deleted the redirect and moved the article to Katie Rodan. It still has some AfC headers on it. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 13:36, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
It no longer has AFC headers. If any editor editor has issues with it such as a promotional tone, they can either tag it or revise it. (There shouldn't be any notability issues. We can agree that the subject is notable.) Robert McClenon (talk) 15:51, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Request on 04:32:40, 8 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Sarovaram11


Hi Robert! This is with reference to my article The Label Life, that was rejected (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarovaram11/sandbox). I'm attempting to edit it and I wanted to clarify the reasons for rejection so I know I'm on the right track while making the changes. 1) The language - needs to be more neutral and objective (does this mean not using phrases like 'celebrity stylists' and so on) 2) Sources - I've tried to restrict them to articles from magazines and newspapers (Indiatoday, vogue and open, the magazine - among others) could you guide me on what other sources I should be looking for?

Apologies if these questions sound silly, it's my first time and I thought it was ready as I put it on the New Contributor's Help chat before submitting for review. But I clearly missed a lot, anyway, it's all a process right?

Thanks very much

Sarovaram11 (talk) 04:32, 8 April 2016 (UTC)Reply


Sarovaram11 (talk) 04:32, 8 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I will try to answer and to get help from other editors at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:36, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Robert! Hope you are well, would you be able to take a look at my submission again and see if there are any notes you can give me? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarovaram11/sandbox Could you also please guide me as to where to put the title? It will be TheLabelLife.com as thats what they are called.

Thanks so much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarovaram11 (talkcontribs) 04:33, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Hello Mccleone. I am confident with people like you Wikipedia would be more reliable. This is your 2nd rejection of my page. i have tried again. Please check Dantunkuran (talk) 13:27, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Request on 15:06:08, 9 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Dantunkuran


Hello Robert. Another editor informed that the other black draft with the name Abdulbaqi Jari has been deleted. You may take a look at the page i am creating now.

Thank you

Dantunkuran (talk) 15:06, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Request on 22:14:56, 9 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Biolprof


First, thank you for you amazingly quick response to my submission of UNC13A as an article for creation. I am a WP Teaching Fellow/University Professor and have a student that would like to expand this article, but I don't want her to be held up by the AfC process. I can have her work further on this stub, but my understanding is that the Wikipedia:WikiProject Molecular and Cell Biology has a project to create a stub for every human gene/protein with the expectation that the stubs will be fleshed out as our knowledge improves. The style guide for these articles is found here. The content of the article I submitted was automatically generated by the GeneWikiGenerator following WP style guidelines. I thought I should be able to automatically send it to WP from the Biogps site, but since I could not, I submitted it as an AfC. Many similar stub articles with just one or two references have been created, some generated by a bot. (For example: ALDH16A1). My response to your specific comments:

  • my understanding is that WP:MCB has determined that every human gene is notable. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but the related genes UNC13B and UNC13D each have a page and neither was created with much more information.
  • The broken link to the reference has now been repaired. Apologies that I missed this.
  • Entrez Gene is a definitive reference for all human genes and is cited following the first sentence of all gene/protein articles that I am familiar with.
  • "(C. elegans)" is included as part of the name for the human protein in Entrez Gene/NCBI web site and was included in the WikiGeneGenerator text, but it is not included in the WP pages for the UNC13B and UNC13D homologs, so I have deleted that.

One additional comment: if you still think this article should not be approved, would you consider asking someone from the WP:MCB for a second opinion. Thank you for your consideration. Biolprof (talk) 22:14, 9 April 2016 (UTC)Reply


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10:18:41, 10 April 2016 review of submission by Longfamily417



Thank you for your recent feedback.

I have modified the first line so that it is not self referencing. I also removed the reference to the Ottawa Citizen circulation size.

Regarding the performance analysis section, what do I do to put it in paragraph format?

Regarding your rejection, what other writing recommendations would you make for it to be acceptable? Perhaps I simply cannot write this kind of article myself? I would have thought the published research would have stood on its own since it was independently reviewed and went through a peer reviewed process.

Interested in your advice.

thanks,

David

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Hello Robert.

Please guide me so that i can finish creating the article i am currently creating. Please point the errors so that i can know where to specifically correct. The Wiki Nigeria project has only 53 people, which mostly have not been around for some time.

  I intend to create many articles to help enrich searches from Nigeria. This is my first one, i will definitely improve after succeeding on this one.

Thank you Dantunkuran (talk) 12:19, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Impostor

Hi,

I thought you ought to know that the barnstar you received was left by an impostor, not by me. Adam9007 (talk) 15:24, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I am aware that the impersonator spelled their user ID differently than you do, and was blocked as an impersonator, and is probably a sock-puppet for a banned user, and was probably trying to fool me into supporting them in some controversy. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:35, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
I'm just hoping that people don't mistake me for him, or think he's a sockpuppet of me or vice versa. He forged my signature and copied my user and talk pages. Adam9007 (talk) 17:38, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
The admins know which of you is which. Don't worry. They blocked him, not you. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:52, 10 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Hello, Can you please explain what you mean by "the filing party has not listed any of the other parties"? Thanks 24.197.253.43 (talk) 04:50, 11 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks for your help. I think that you know that I am beginner in Wikipedia and I didn't read those policies that you explained. I will draw attention to them in the future. Good luck! Temuujina (talk) 06:55, 11 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Hello Robert

No body responds to you call for advice in Tea House, guess they too are dormant like Wiki Nigeria project. Anyway, i thank you for your help. Is here i leave it. I want to write in Hausa also. Lets see if i will improve my English in the next 5 year. I want to delete the article for now. Dantunkuran (talk) 11:07, 11 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

User:Dantunkuran - Please don't delete the article without keeping its information somewhere. The Hausa Wikipedia would be a place to keep it. If you expect to improve it in the English draft within six months, please keep it in English. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:49, 11 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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I Don't know what I'm doing

I filed a Edit warring thing a day ago or so and it looks like they are going to skip me. I am going to make it simple, I am not a regular user on Wikipedia, I don't get the whole fight system thing here. But I asked for help many times now about the same issue and I am getting the shaft from the whole lot. This leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Look at my edit history, do I look like I would know the whole system? Please just get someone to address this matter on the Laura Branigan article. 07:20, 12 April 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devilmanozzy (talkcontribs)

Since you are an inexperienced user who is trying to edit a contentious article, I will be asking for help at the Teahouse, which provides advice primarily to new editors. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:05, 12 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Devilmanozzy: I saw a link to this on AN3 so I thought I'd comment: the reason they're going to ignore your report is that I did not violate WP:3RR, as you claimed. So the report is totally frivolous, just like your previous report against me at ANI. Cheers Thomas.W talk 16:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Robert McClenon: It's not an inexperienced user, but someone I've had run-ins with multiple times over several years, see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Thomas.W_reported_by_User:Devilmanozzy. Thomas.W talk 16:49, 12 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
User:Devilmanozzy - This is beyond taking this to the Teahouse. Cancelling the plan to go there. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:12, 12 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
User:Thomas.W - First, as to the RFC, either request closure review or agree that there is consensus that her birth date was 1952. Second, either file the sockpuppet investigation or stop claiming sock-puppetry. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:12, 12 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Both of you - Stop edit-warring, even in slow motion, about her place of birth. Stop the edit-warring about removal of sections. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. The best approach at this point would be formal mediation if you are willing to try that. In any case, stop editing her date of birth. Either accept 1952, or request that the RFC be re-opened.l Robert McClenon (talk) 17:12, 12 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Cristian Carrara

Hi, thank you for your indication about youtube video. Today I added other references. Ciao Icedevis (talk) 10:27, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks for reviewing the article I submitted so quickly. Really impressive turnaround. Sethgodin (talk) 16:40, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Jonathan Sackner Bernstein bio updated

As suggested, I updated the first paragraph of the article (peacock language) and feel like the whole thing reads okay. Submitted via articles for creation, but thought I'd come back to you.

To save time, the notability thing: NY Times writes, "The controversy over Natrecor follows two recently published studies by Dr. Jonathan Sackner-Bernstein, a heart failure specialist at North Shore University Hospital in Manhasset, N.Y. The analyses, based on patient studies submitted to the F.D.A., linked the drug to worsened kidney function and hastened death."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/17/business/the-marketing-and-success-of-natrecor.html?_r=0

Bio in question is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jonathan_Sackner_Bernstein

Apologies for being so so bad about formatting the talk page stuff in the wikipedia style. It's definitely an acquired skill.

Thanks Robert. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sethgodin (talkcontribs) 16:58, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

If you have resubmitted it, I will let another reviewer review it this time. By the way, within Wikipedia, we prefer that editors use internal wikilinks to articles rather than external URLs. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:39, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Robert. I appreciate the response. PS It sure seems as though the computer ought to be smart enough to resolve external links into internal ones... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sethgodin (talkcontribs) 17:47, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

When you refer to the computer, do you mean the web browser, or Wikipedia itself? The web browser knows nothing of Wikipedia. The Wikipedia editor receives a lot of URLs and doesn't try to parse them. You might make that suggestion at the Village Pump (idea lab). Robert McClenon (talk) 18:12, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

18:14:07, 13 April 2016 review of submission by Avery.brister


name

Fix name in search box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lawrence Theo (talkcontribs) 19:01, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Deletion of Article

Sir,Can you help me clean up the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvind_Iyer and also look at the dead link references.In my opinion,the personal does not meet notability guidelines and request you to nominate the article for deletion.Thank You (Intelbot22 (talk) 04:52, 14 April 2016 (UTC))Reply

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01:25:15, 16 April 2016 review of submission by Martamagriet



{{Hi Robert. Thank you for reviewing my article. I have made some of the updates (wikilinks/see also comments), however, I would like to change the article name to Andres Saavedra (producer). I'm having a difficult time figuring out how to do that before I resubmit the article for review. Could you guide me in the right direction? Thank you very much. }} :It appears that your draft, if not ready for acceptance, is almost ready for acceptance. However, when it is accepted, it should be accepted at Andres Saavedra, because he is the only person with that name. The article won't need disambiguation, either in the article title or in the infobox. (The current draft is only a draft and can be ignored if your sandbox copy meets acceptance standards, and it appears that it does. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:52, 16 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

It is true that, in the short run, he does need disambiguating. I will ask for advice at the Teahouse about the intermediate run. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:54, 16 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello

Hello. First, thank you for reviewing my article. I have made some change in the references, but I am still unsure how to interpret your comment : Some of the references do not appear to be applicable to this person at all, while some of them are applicable. Please review the references and see which of them are applicable.

Is it because I have linked the website pages of his former doctoral students? I can remove them if you wish. Thanks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jules_Desharnais

If so, why did you link the pages of his former doctoral students? They didn't relate to anything said in the text. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:45, 17 April 2016 (UTC)Reply


It's removed, can you review my article again? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IceTestifier (talkcontribs) 14:02, 17 April 2016 (UTC) IceTestifier (talk) 14:09, 17 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

13:46:36, 17 April 2016 review of submission by Angieduma


Dear Robert McClenon, thank for reviewing the submitted article on Design for All. I perfectly understand your point of view. There are three existing articles which treat DfA on the English Wikipedia. Please let me explain you, why I decided to submit a further one and suggest a solution. The most relevant and scientifically updated article on Design for All is actually incorporated in the article about Universal Design. This gives the idea, that DfA is a subcategory of Universal Design, which is not the case. DfA and UD are two distinct approaches treating a common argument, but born in different parts of the world. The DfA-approach has it's roots in the European culture, UD is more known in the US and Japan. My suggestion would be to create two distinct articles: one on Universal Design and one on DfA. The latter updated by my information. The other two articles treating DfA (ICT and product line) could be incorporated and/or cut. Product line is quite promotional and ICT is not updated. What do you think about it? Grateful for your assistance I thank you in advance

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The Help Desk

You added archivetop/archivebottom tags around a discussion on the help desk. Later the archivebottom was removed, leaving everything from the April 17 section header onwards archived.

I have now removed the archivetop, to make the Desk usable again. Maybe I should instead have tried to restore the archivebottom to where it was meant to be - but I am reluctant to tinker with things that I don't fully understand. Maproom (talk) 07:27, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I know

. Right after I saved it, I saw the problem, and tried to fix, but you had already fixed. At least, it looked fine to me after your fix. Oops. Thank youj. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:17, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Draft:Great Western Mainline Electrification Progress

Relating to "Great Western Main Line Electrification Progress" new page submission.

McClenon said (to paraphrase) "expand the page to include an introduction and some references", so I did so. the Joseph2302 said "this should not be a separate page, add it to the main one", which means the introduction and references I have added at the suggestion of the McClenon would be redundant, since the main page already has them.

I'm quite confused, and feel like I have wasted my time, so I am becoming reluctant to commit any more effort to this. I can't see how I can take both of your comments into account, so should I just assume that the latest comment is the correct one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris.Bristol (talkcontribs) 19:41, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

One of the Teahouse, your talk page (don't scatter it between ours), or the draft talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
I hadn't seen the other article. My comment was largely in response to yours being mostly just a table. I had been thinking that a main article was needed. I see the main article, and I agree that your contribution appears to be meant to be a table in the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:36, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Question regarding "edit" tab/feature to edit articles

Hi Robert,

I notice I am unable to edit entries and AfC submissions using the Edit tab. This seems to have happened just four days ago --- before that, there appeared an "edit" tab at the top right side of my screen, to make edits easy. Now it is gone! Instead, I only see an "Edit source" tab, which I can use to make edits but is much more cumbersome and difficult than using the easy editor "Edit" tab feature. [ver encountered this problem when editing? If so, any advice/suggestions on what to do?

Cheers, ChopSticksChan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:11, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

It appears that you want to use a feature known as the Visual Editor, as opposed to using the wiki markup editor. Please ask at the Teahouse how to turn the Visual Editor back on. I can't answer you because I don't use the Visual Editor; I use the wiki markup editor. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:52, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

09:28:57, 19 April 2016 review of submission by 195.195.81.208


Hello Robert, thank-you for taking the time to review my wikipedia article. I have used your advice as the basis for re-writing the article. I hope it will now meet community standards. After further research I have expanded the number of independent, reliable sources as you suggested. I am still to provide the ISBN number and page references for reference #3 because the book is currently on loan from my college library. However I have reserved it on Thursday when it is due back. Best wishes from London, Ali

195.195.81.208 (talk) 09:28, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

George G. Receli article

Dear Robert, Thank for for reviewing the article and also for your suggestions about how to substantiate the information regarding the awards. George is currently on tour with Dylan in Japan. I am in contact with him and he will be sending me links from reliable sources, which I will add as external links. We appreciate your helping us comply with community standards. WikiWhip (talk) 04:13, 20 April 2016 (UTC)WikiWhipReply


Robert, George is an old friend and neighbor. I am not his employee, nor have I ever received any money from him. I am simply collaborating with him in an effort to get his Wikipedia page on line. WikiWhip (talk) 23:12, 21 April 2016 (UTC)WikiWhip (talk) 23:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)WikiWhipReply

He may not be paying you, but please read the conflict of interest policy anyway. Trying to help a neighbor and friend to get his page on-line is not an obvious violation of the policy, but that doesn't change the fact that many Wikipedians, including me, will think that it is a less obvious violation. If you don't want his draft flagged as having a conflict of interest, you can ask at the conflict of interest noticeboard, or I can ask, but I think that you do have a conflict of interest, and he definitely does, and you admit to be working with him, even if not for him. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:43, 22 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Robert, I now understand the conflict of interest issue. Can you please help us overcome this obstacle? WikiWhip (talk) 18:08, 22 April 2016 (UTC)WikiWhipReply

My advice at this point is to go to the Teahouse and ask for neutral advice for a COI editor. You can't change the fact that the draft is now tagged as written partly by a COI editor. What you can request is their help in reworking a draft about someone who is almost certainly notable (that is, he will be notable when the Grammies are probably documented) to make it neutral. Some editors at the Teahouse are very friendly to new editors who came here not being aware of our strict COI policy who are trying to get an article on someone who probably is entitled to an article. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:45, 23 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Gianni Piacentino page

Hello Robert, I'm new to wikipedia so please excuse me if I'm going about this incorrectly. You reviewed my recent submission, a page on artist Gianni Piacentino, and declined my submission because of an existing pending review. The existing page, Draft:Gianni Piacentino, was declined on 23 May 2015. As this previous page was declined, I'm not sure if I should/can make edits to it. Would it be best to resubmit my page or make edits to this existing declined draft and resubmit that? Hribbens (talk) 14:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Make your changes to the existing draft. If you resubmit your sandbox page, it will be declined again because there is already a draft in progress. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:09, 21 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Please comment on Talk:David Jolly

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Robert, thank you so much for your looking into the questions about my article for Jeff Cavins, which I found out through you had overwritten a seemingly stagnant draft. As I mentioned on the draft page, this was due to my error. However, on the original merits of my question, would you be able to review my draft at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jeff_Cavins or submit it to be reviewed?

Submitted. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:42, 27 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

I put it through

Hi Robert, just a heads up that I tweaked and then created Rangeland Management in mainspace. The article still needs some work, but there is actually a huge need for this article, as nothing else there covers precisely the same thing. Western land management and arid land management is a unique field and a topic of tremendous importance to livestock producers in many arid ecosystems with fragile land. Anyway, as you were reviewing the draft, I figured that I should give you a heads up that I was bold and moved it. I dn't get over to AfC very much, but if you run across another agriculture article that needs a review, feel free to ping me any time. Montanabw(talk) 04:53, 24 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

13:55:34, 24 April 2016 review of submission by Littletpot


Hi. I edited the page to include the links you suggested. I don't really know what you mean by pointing to the red links on the DC Library page so I can't really address that. For what it's worth, the two other D.C. Carnegie libraries Mt. Pleasant and Takoma have articles. Also, my understanding from reading federal and local regs is that a property located in a historic district, does in fact have historic status. Locally, property, even private property, within a historic district cannot be altered without a permit, and alterations must adhere to design and construction standards approved by a preservation board. On the federal level, owners of property in a historic district listed in the national register like Capitol Hill are eligible for special tax breaks and grants unavailable to property not in a historic district. This is all indicative of buildings within a district being considered historic. Specifically in the case here where the building is 94, designed by a notable architect, and part of a larger movement that itself is notable, adds to the weight of it's historic nature. But you are correct. The building in and of itself is not a legally a "Landmark." I've changed the heading to "Location." Littletpot (talk) 13:55, 24 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Appreciate your help in creation of "Spacetime Topology". You have made me a great confidence in wikipedia. I will contribute more of my knowledge for wikipedia.org. If there is anything I can offer as a volunteer, please don't hesitate to let me know. Best regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virtumanity (talkcontribs) 01:50, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Spacetime Topology

Hi Robert, I notice you accepted the creation of Spacetime Topology by user Virtumanity (talk · contribs). Please note that we already have an article Spacetime topology, that this user tried to replace with his content, full of original research, errors (the opening line of the lead is just nonsense already), unreliable sources (e.g. self-published [1]) and primary sources, all for which I warned the user [2]. After that warning, they simply upcased the article title. Can you please undo your approval and/or delete the article? Thanks - DVdm (talk) 06:25, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Note: article db-ed and user notified. Cheers. - DVdm (talk) 06:44, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

response

Hi DVdml, the research was published for more than a year and has been recorganized in the scientific community, for it was invited as the keynote speech at London quantum physics conference in March, and is further invited for the coming speech at American astronomy meeting, and the physics 2016 in June, and much more. Hope you can understand the significance of the contents, although the post is just a very small part of the contents. Please note, the original contents "Spacetime topology" is old and misleading to our generations, should you google on the Internet. Our goal is not for anything personal but helping the community for scientific advancement. You might review my credentials by Google "Wei Xu IPSec". In fact, the post is purely to help our scociety, unlerated to my career at all, because I have a busy position daily at an IT organization. respectfully, Virtumanity (talk) 11:51, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Astrology? Please have a very careful look at wp:FRINGE. - DVdm (talk) 12:11, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Astronomy. Thank you for advise. Respectively — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virtumanity (talkcontribs) 12:21, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Wikipedia is not a place to promote our own research. The part that you added is entirely based on your self-published work ([3]). - DVdm (talk) 12:34, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Spacetime Topology - Solution

Hi Robert, The article was originally titled as "Spacetime Manifold". After reviewed by wiae, he suggested to update the contents on "Spacetime topology". Following his instruction, I updated the title to "Spacetime Topology" AND included all of the original contents of "Spacetime topology" in the section 1.2. What I didn't know was the difference between small and capital "T". I apologize for this confusion. I suggest to redirect "Spacetime topology" to "Spacetime Topology", or please advise. respectively. Virtumanity (talk) 11:16, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Note: As can be tracked in your edit history, first you updated the article Spacetime topology with your content, which I undid, and warned about on your talk page. Then, you created the new article Spacetime Topology with exactly the same content that was removed. I don't think that this is a matter of not knowing the difference between small and capital "T". It looks like ignoring a warning about original research, and finding yet another way of promoting your work. - DVdm (talk) 12:46, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
(talk page stalker) I also redirected Spacetime Manifold to spacetime topology. I'm by no means an expert in this area but the discussion of yin and yan fields struck me as possible original research or fringe material. Perhaps I should have been more clear about those Wikipedia policies in my decline of User:Virtumanity/sandbox/Spacetime Manifold, rather than giving the boilerplate "this subject is already discussed at article x" decline. /wiae /tlk 15:04, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
@Wiae: (also pinging Favonian who moved it to user space now) not only is it OR, the description (abstract) of his self-published source https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/id1082259284 (which he uses in the opening statement of the lead) reveals that this is, forgive my French, complete nonsense. And more of similar Yin Yang in his other cited private source https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/theory-of-physical-cosmology/id999166352?mt=11 Checking some of the other sources is telling (e.g. [4]). - DVdm (talk) 15:49, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Note, Favonian's userfied User:Virtumanity/Spacetime Topology now moved back to User:Virtumanity/sandbox/Spacetime Manifold by user RHaworth. - DVdm (talk) 18:00, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Robert and DVdm: First, in case there is any lack of clarity, I will point out that I did not write or contribute to the articles in question. I was an AFC reviewer, and evidently made the mistake of not verifying that there was already an article that differed only by capitalization. The article was well-sourced, and I didn't read it in the detail to see that it apparently contained original research and a mixture of science and pseudo-science. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:13, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Dear Robert and DVdm, First of all, I appreciate your time on this. All what your comments as original research are removed completely, though it is trying to help our civilization. The section 1.1 is now enhanced to address "pseudo-science". As you can see, the father of our quantum physics, Niels Bohr, is a YinYang philosopher. From the updated references of [8]-[16], you might see the well-known journals are publishing numerous of the yin yang papers. FYI: by debating with Bohr, Einstein spent rest of his 40 years of Unified Field Theory for nothing, only because of his ignorance of yin yang philosophy. After a century, our challenge is even greater than that of the trial of Galileo Galilei. Not only do we ignore both a profound philosophy of science and the existence of Unified Theory for All Physics, but we have also failed at a time when “Scientists have become the bearers of the torch of discovery in our quest for knowledge” stated by Stephen Hawking. Our challenge is to soften our metaphysical prejudices, for the assumption that there is no metaphysical reality is also a metaphysics itself. Our challenge is to open up our minds to facts hidden in the fabric of daily life. Everywhere our world shines with a beautiful nature of yin yang duality. Finally, I sincerely thank you for spending time on this, although my thoughts to become a WiKi volunteer is hopeless. Hope you can maintain WiKi healthier if not better. Sincerely and respectfully. Virtumanity (talk) 05:01, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Starting at the bottom, I see the following unreliable sources: [5], [6], [7]. I'll stop here. - DVdm (talk) 07:14, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Good suggestion. Removed, since the original reference to Wikipedia is more than enough. I am happy to follow your instruction for revision before the posting. Honestly speaking, the current "Spacetime topology" is really mis-leading. It is better not be there, or replaced by this post at least for some benefits. I like Robert statement "I had originally intended to contribute a few articles on subjects of which I have knowledge. However, it seems that much of my time is being spent in responding to disputes and problematical editors. We have problematical editors on Wikipedia because editors are human and humans are problematical." except this time I am a problematical contributor. Thank you again for educating me with my first post. I have learned lots from you all. Forgive me if I have done anything improperly. Best wishes.

Virtumanity (talk) 12:51, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Request on 00:14:21, 26 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Kildowgut


Thank you for your feedback. I understand why you rejected the article. I will not be revising it. Kildowgut (talk) 00:14, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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01:39:54, 26 April 2016 review of submission by Lithiumsrilanka



Hi Robert, I submitted an article with the title Prime Lands Group. Can you please give me some pointers to clean it up. Like remove some links or a specific paragraph that violates the G11, Thanks in advance.

See my comments at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:53, 26 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Request on 13:31:56, 27 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Faithmarks


Hello! Robert McClenon, thank you for your feedback about this article. I understand the reasons you declined its creation. I have removed the company's website from the references and added a few more. Now they are all from independent sources - newspapers, industry media, official studies etc. There are no directory listings among the references, only the certified partner lists of notable third-party providers. Some of the references are in Bulgarian language as they come from Bulgarian newspapers that do not offer English versions - I added a note to each of them. Will this be a sufficient improvement to resubmit the article? I kindly ask for your opinion and advice if there is something more to be done.

Thanks a lot in advance! Faithmarks (talk) 13:31, 27 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Request on 12:08:34, 28 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Graememcg


Thank you for the feedback on my submission for CORGI HomePlan. I would like to understand a bit more about what was meant by my references being inconsistent. Does this refer to anything in particular? What could improve the consistency of the references? Also, the references were referred to as duplicated. Again, are you able to provide specific examples of what you mean to help me refine this entry to the standard required?

Graememcg (talk) 12:08, 28 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Request on 19:52:02, 28 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by 128.114.234.139


check on edits for resubmit Robert McCleon, Thank you for your prompt consideration of the submission Draft:Russell L. De Valois. I believe I understood the issues you raised and hope that I have adequately addressed them in the resubmission. I will be alert to further processing of the submission. 128.114.234.139 (talk) 19:52, 28 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

128.114.234.139 (talk) 19:52, 28 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Non-useful statement. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:21, 30 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
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Personal attacks?

I made no personal attacks to any editor, so please do not make false accusations toward me. Thank you. - Knight of BAAWA (talk) 23:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

04:54:21, 30 April 2016 review of submission by Dimigaza


Hi Robert, could you Be More specific about what I Have done wrong in creating my Page?

Kind regards, Dimitri

04:56:36, 30 April 2016 review of submission by Dimigaza


Hi Robert, could you Be More specific about what I Have done wrong in creating my Page? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Dimigaza/sandbox&action=edit

Kind regards, Dimitri

Maybe I don't understand what you were trying to do. Were you trying to create a Wikipedia article? What would the subject of the article have been? Were you trying to use Wikipedia as the web host for a memorial for the Dutch Resistance? If so, what policy did you read that said that this was an appropriate use? Did you read WP:NOTWEBHOST? Robert McClenon (talk) 10:41, 30 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you for reviewing the articles I created! Jaldous1 (talk) 14:02, 1 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Request on 00:21:11, 2 May 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Scottmacgregor123


Hi Mr. McClenon,

I appreciate the quick review time. You declined my RONALD J. ROSS article today 5/1/16. You found an old submission of mine (via my subject's sandbox and we were led to believe that it had been deleted due to our inaction. Should we just go back to that article and re-edit it? Thank you. smacgregor123


Scottmacgregor123 (talk) 00:21, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Scholarship Owl

Hi Robert,

Hope you're well. You declined my article on ScholarshipOwl saying there was a draft under review here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ScholarshipOwl. I looked at it and saw it was actually declined for not having been written according to the guidelines. So I rewrote the article of THAT user. Does it make sense? What do I do now? It's been over a week and the other article didn't get any comments. I feel like the reviewers won't review it because it wasn't the original editor who edited that item? Please help shed some light on this issue. Thanks for your help! - Yael Usseryroad (talk) 20:44, 1 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

You haven't submitted it for review. Do you want me to submit it as per your request? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:31, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

It's Robert again...

Hi Robert. Could you take a look at Talk:Four Noble Truths? Robert Walker is running around again... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:21, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

I've posted my comments at Talk:Four Noble Truths. Either the draft RFC should be formalized, or it should be closed. I can't help about any question about truth, because Christianity has an entirely different concept of truth than Buddhism does, although similar teachings on ethics. We can walk together toward differing hoped-for destinations, but as long as we are at peace about the journey, let us not talk about where the journey is going. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:16, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Reply
At this point, the only advice I have on the walls of text is to ignore them, and to focus on either formalizing the RFC or closing the RFC. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:16, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I really love your abstention on "different truths." And I agree about ignoring the walls of texts; I'd reached that point this morning. Thanks, and all the best, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:49, 2 May 2016 (UTC)Reply
Hi Robert - as a matter of information on wikipedia procedure since I'm not as familiar with this as the other editors - is @Joshua Jonathan: right to say that I can't open an RfC on "redeath" for as long as the RfC on WP:RS is open? Note that we were in the middle of discussing the possibility of a future RfC on "redeath" when they opened the RfC on WP:RS in case that makes any difference, and had not discussed the idea of an RfC on WP:RS. It seems that potentially if he is right that it is impossible to open the new RfC for up to 30 days depending on when they close the current RfC. He also seems to be saying that because it is a more broadly stated RfC then any conclusion overrides any RfC on particulars in the debate - that can't be right can it? His comment is here: [8] Robert Walker (talk) 14:48, 3 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

03:48:13, 3 May 2016 review of submission by Kurtisokc


I am fairly new to Wikipedia, and don't do edits very often, so maybe I'm missing something, but I'm confused as to why my submitted article for Iowa Lakes Community College was rejected. The explanation was that the article was rejected because a stub article was previously submitted. However, as far as I can tell, the previous article was submitted in 2014. Furthermore, the reviewer stated in his comments that he thinks the article I submitted is better than the previously submitted article and should be reviewed in its place. However, as far as I can tell the editor who rejected my submission is the same one who made that comment. I understand that editors might have inflexible guidelines to work under, but if a previous submission has priority over mine, shouldn't you just go ahead and approve or disapprove it since it has been, like, a year and a half already?

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