User talk:Khoikhoi/Archived

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Names of Istanbul

Hi, do you think the consensus on the requested move of Etymology of Istanbul to Names of Istanbul was clear enough for you to perform it now? I think it's time to go ahead with it but I'm too lazy to write it up on WP:RM... The _target has an edit history, otherwise I'd do it boldly myself. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

John Hunyadi

Why does does my addition to the John Hunyadi page keep getting deleted? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shield2 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 24 October 2006.

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Your advice

hi Khoikhoi thanks a lot for your advice. You people on Wiki are really helpful to us wet behind the ears newcomers! Spinach charm 10:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

A very Californian RfA thanks from Luna Santin

Thanks for your support in my not-so-recent RfA, which succeeded with a final tally of (97/4/4)! I've never been able to accept compliments gracefully, and the heavy support from this outstanding community left me at a complete loss for words -- so, a very belated thank you for all of your kind words. I have done and will continue to do the utmost to serve the community in this new capacity, wherever it may take me, and to set an example others might wish to follow in. With a little luck and a lot of advice, this may be enough. Maybe someday the enwiki admins of the future will look back and say, "Yeah, that guy was an admin." Hopefully then they don't start talking about the explosive ArbComm case I got tied into and oh what a drama that was, but we'll see, won't we? Surely some of you have seen me in action by now; with that in mind, I openly invite and welcome any feedback here or here -- help me become the best editor and sysop I can be. Again, thank you. –Luna Santin

And congratulations on your own recent adminship, as well! :) Luna Santin 19:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

It's great to see you as an admin -- I hope I'll see you around often. I see that your off to a (prolific) start. Take care. Saravask 19:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Re Occupation of Izmir

Hi. I saw this. I have already withdrawn the AfD (right above your comment), and filed for a merge in the article talk. Since you're an admin, maybe you could close the AfD and remove the template from the article. Then, you can express your opinion about that merge in the mother article Talk:Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922)#Proposed merge. Thanks. PS. Aside from the debate, do you like the way I styled that poll? Makes it evident which option prevails, and easy to follow up with the comments below, without special formatting techniques (e.g. '#::') needed to maintain automubering while commenting! •NikoSilver• 08:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Well...I'm not really used to AfD and I'm not entirely sure how to close it. Also, even though I could withdraw my vote, I'm still not comfortable with closing it as I've been too invovled in this article. Yeah, I liked the way you styled it. What's your opinion on the article? Do you think it should be renamed, deleted, or merged? I think the topic is notable enough to merit it's own article, personally. I would support a rename, however. Khoikhoi 18:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I understand, I've retracted that withdrawal anyway. My position is that any subject, if not elaborated to some extent, does not deserve being a separate article. I cannot assess if it could-would-should be worthy or not, I just see that it presently isn't. There are only 5 lines of unique content in Occupation of Izmir#Occupation and the rest is repetition of background and aftermath to justify existence! So, my opinion is merge and delete. Whoever wants to keep it alive, should work more on expanding it and less on debating. •NikoSilver• 19:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I guess I see what you're saying. You agree, however, that the subject istelf is notable—right? Khoikhoi 01:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

For the moment, I have no data to support notability. I would like to contribute in exploring ways of expanding it, but I am too busy these days. Other than that, Richard's proposal for "Greek capture of Smyrna and Turkish re-capture of Smyrna" (here) does not sound so bad (actually Hectorian had pointed it out too in his AfD comments). Provided there is content in the first place though... •NikoSilver• 09:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit wars

There are edit wars at Arabs of Khuzestan, Khaz'al Khan, and History of the name Azerbaijan. Anything you can do to help is good. Thanks! The Kurdish people article is also still a mess. Khorshid 17:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Also the anon on Arabs of Khuzestan and Khaz'al Khan is User:Ahwaz who has been banned several times. Khorshid 17:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I request a check IP to proove that I am not who this user is accusing me of. It is wrong to make such baseless accusations. The issue of Arabs of Khuzestan and Khaz'al Khan is interesting. On the Arabs of Khuzestan article, Korshid et al want to delete content because they claim the referenced author breaches verifiability. Yet on the Khaz'al Khan article, they want to retain a fairly strong statement accusing the man of murder and despotism, but without any referencing. The most interesting aspect of this is that the writer they object to and Khaz'al Khan are/were both Iranian Arabs. I would be interested in your advice on how to ensure consistency in editorial standards.--88.110.190.21 18:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Assyrian music

Hey their bro, can you please keep an eye on Assyrian music? This user 'alonzo' keeps trying to promote artists by adding all these links. Please stop him from editing that page. Chaldean 23:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Armenian Genocide

For the sake of limiting the vandalism, can you semi-protect?--MarshallBagramyan 23:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I understand about the activity in that vandals do not always automatically revert back but how much more must we keep up with reverting things like these [1] and these [2] by new/anon users?--MarshallBagramyan 23:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Arabs of Khuzestan

Please have a look. Some anonomous user's are tyring to use Bani Torof as a source, and he is very very unreliable. He is neither a historian nor an acadamian, he is an Iranian Arab writer and journalist. Bani Torof also claims that Arabs lived in Iran before the Aryans came, and that basically the Elamites were Arab. If this isnt historical revisionism and propaganda, then I dont know what is.Khosrow II 03:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes and please also look at Khaz'al Khan. There is a list of references there and it looks like the whole articles uses them but the anon keeps vandalizing and trying to censor the article to make the dictator look good. Please also archive this page, its too long. Thanks. Khorshid 03:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

You speak Persian? You surprise me everyday :)70.225.173.18 00:43, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Yea thats me. Sorry about that. So where'd you learn?Khosrow II 01:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Its a pretty easy language to learn. Ask me if you want to know any phrases or anything.Khosrow II 02:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Please accept my thanks for your support in my successful RfA, which I was gratified to learn passed without opposition on October 25, 2006. I am looking forward to serving as an administrator and hope that I prove worthy of your trust. With my best wishes, --MCB 06:52, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

thanks!

Thank you for your appreciation of my humble contribution to the project. Don Alessandro 15:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Bonny alert

Please check the log of new user names and this edit (as well as the previous ones on this page). --Ghirla ^-трёп- 15:36, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Snle?

Hi there, Do you know when we'll get an answer to our check-user request on Snle? It's been a while since we submitted it and it would be good to have this done before the weekend. Judging by his past behavior, he usually starts making a fuss on Saturday mornings...--Niohe 15:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

So far use azakhs did only useful things. He even deleted correctly the map from Han Chinese: it was self-drawn poor quality and erroneous (or, say, non-verifiasble, since it differed from claimed source in some nontrivial detail). Azakhs added a CIA detailed map in some other place, so "assuming good faith" I guess here he wanted to replace bad by good one, but forgot. I replaced myself. `'mikkanarxi 18:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Npa3 tag placed for user Mikkalai

Hi Khoikhoi,

I have placed an Npa3 tag at the user page [3], because, in addition to reverting and refusing to give any explanation, he threatens. It is very hard to contribute in a hostile environment.

I would like to add that I did and still have some disagrements with the user Irpen, who has also been reverting my edits. But with Irpen, I was able to work compromizes on about 50% of issues. Also Irpen has never used threats. So, although I disagree with some of Irpen's edits, and think they are biased, it is apparently possible to keep an "academic" dispute with him.

Cheers:Dc76 17:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, cheers from our common good friend. I am just waiting for more evidence. `'mikkanarxi 17:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Mikkalai has errased my npa3 tag without saying a word. I have discovered also that he has completely errased another page that I started: Northern Maramureş. This is the 5th case. I did revert this one, but not the other 4: Romanophobia, Budjak, Bolohoveni, and Battle of Vorskla. By all means, this is a personal attack. Why some users are civilized and talk, like Irpen (even when they have bised POV, it is still possible to talk with them)while others like Mikkalai are so agressive and intimidating? :Dc76 17:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Obviously this person does not know what he is translating from romanian text. His Northern Maramureş article is not about N.Maramures. `'mikkanarxi 18:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Who are you, are you Mikkalai or Khoikhoi? The text that was in Northern Maramureş is only the beggining of the article. Why does Mikkalai not wait for the whole article, and then constuctively copy-edit? I don't claim the article is 5-star, but that's why wikipedia exists. Help if you can! The problem however is not about the text. I have had disagreements with other people and was able to work out with every person.

• Mikkalai personally attacks me. This is my problem.:Dc76 18:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Khoikhoi, and thank you very mcuh for stepping in. In the recent history of my user talk page I found this comment by 203.160.1.52 :

Salut! Vei avea probleme cu Mikkalai din moment ce el crede ca tu esti User:Bonaparte, take care he will try to hount you and block you since he has a hatred towards romanians, that's why he was blocked for his anti-romanian attitudes..cheers :)

I will translate the parts in Romanian:

Hi! You will have problems with Mikkalai since he believes that you are User:Bonaparte...

I would like to state clearly that I am not user Bonaparte, and that I have never had an account on wikipedia before september 2006. I have editted other pages before, as I have told you, and they were signed by the system automatically with the 4 numbers. I needed an account when I wanted to upload a picture. I never engaged in any edit war.:Dc76 19:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Reverts

Isn't that a bit like an ad hominem vendetta? Why do we have articles for Koreans in China and Italian Americans but not Kazakhs in China? Your fervor (and the constant lack of edit summaries or use of "discussion") just doesn't ring true to me. Badagnani 05:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

For example, why would you change the Yi people wikilink on the CEG template to Yi, which is a dab page? That just doesn't make sense, unless you are letting your emotions get to you and editing too quickly, without thinking and careful consideration. Sorry to bring up these points, but I feel I have to, because now I have to go there and clean up when I shouldn't have to do that. Badagnani 05:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

Thank you for supporting my RfA that I have passed with 73/2/1.--Jusjih 10:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Greeks in Armenia

Hi. I noticed the article now. I also made some minor fixes. Hectorian 11:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

You might want to check...

...this. •NikoSilver• 12:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

On second thought, check WP:AN first and User:Tony Sidaway's talk (recently archived). •NikoSilver• 13:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

al-Farabi

An anon IP is vandalizing the al-Farabi page. Please have a look at it. Tājik 14:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Faridoun

I cannot find link to Persian king, Faridoun. May be it is spelled differently. Siddiqui 16:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Vasile Luca

Hi. The info on his birthplace was found in his autobiography (see the references section). The search problems you encoutered were due to two different facts:

• there is an unusual problem with the â in Romanian spellings; even though it is generally considered proper to spell stuff with an â, many sources still use the old î (when diacritics are discarded - they shouldn't be, but they are -, this turns to i; also, while a google search for "Sincatolna" will also automatically yuield links to the diacritic version, the diacritic version will not yield links to the improper but widespread non-diacritic) - see Romanian alphabet for more details on why spelling in my language is still problematic;
• sources dealing with various topics in Romania are usually way less careful than they ought to be, and especially so when dealing with sbjects considered "irrelevant"; the link between Luca and his place of birth is not apparently as interesting as criticizing or outright cursing Luca (sites involved in the latter activities outnumber more neutral ones 2 to 1).

We have still not established a clear policy on what language Transylvanian names ought to be given in. If you think that, given his DOB, the Hungarian name is more appropriate, I suggest either "masking" the Romanian link ("Romanian name|Hungarian name" - since the article for the former is likely to appear before a Hun. redirect) or providing the Romanian name in parantheses after the Hun. name, and linking the former (as we did elsewhere). Your call, and thanks for taking an interest. Dahn 19:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

If the person spent most of his life in country A, and was born on the territory of the country A, 1) when that territory was under country B, or, 2) the territory does not longer belongs to A, but the person moved to country A, did not stay with the territory, then his place of birth is to be written in the language of country A, and a remark added about B.

For example, Emil Constantinescu was born in Tighina, Romania, which now is a city in Moldova

Another example, someone born in 1960 in Kiev was born in Ukarine, which at that time was in USSR

similar Chisinau, Moldova. You never say the person was born in USSR, but in Moldova, Ukraine, Estonia, etc

Iuliu Maniu was born in the county of Salaj in Romania, when that was part of Austria-Hungary. Even though Maniu was first an Austian-Hungarian politician, and then a Romanian one

They even write Herman Oberth was born in Sighisoara, Romania. Even though Sighisoara at that point was in Austria-Hungary, and Oberth has worked in Romania, Germany and USA.

In your case, the logical formulation is Vasile Luca was born in romanian name,which at the time of his birth was called hungarian hame,and was part of Austria-Hungary.:Dc76 20:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Trudelstein

Inconclusive, sorry. Jayjg ^(talk) 20:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Weird edits to Qianlong

I just want to alert your attention to the fact that 108059 (talk · contribs) is editing the contents of several articles related to the Qing dynasty, changing a number of names to non-standard forms. See for instance this diff from Qianlong. I've tried to communicate with him/her about this, but he/she doesn't respond and I'm getting a bit fed up. Please advice.--Niohe 20:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

vote-spamming at Talk:Jogaila

Could you give an eye at what is happening at the RM vote at Talk:Jogaila? A new Russian-Polish war appears to have erupted, and, what's worse, blatant vote spamming, like that done by the Polish editor User:Truthseeker 85.5. Ciao, --Aldux 22:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I understand, don't worry. Anyways, there are already a couple of admins surveying the talk, so maybe my request was a bit rash.--Aldux 09:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Artvin

Sure! -- Clevelander 23:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Bonny socks

Hi, Khoikhoi, three Bonnysocks you blocked for one week appeares to be open proxies:

• 202.75.7.187, 125.244.243.66 - see http://www.anonymitychecker.com/page1.html
• 201.37.98.40 - http://www.ahbl.org/tools/lookup.php?ip=201.37.98.40

You may consider to block them permanently or report to the project "Open Proxy" Alex Bakharev 00:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

THx

Thanks man for unblocking me i'll be ok. Cheers, Arthur 28 October 2006

WC

See [4] It is a strange user. Has not even existed for a week. But appears skilled in administrative procedures. Votes for adminships. Wants to mediate. Especially see the first two (just 2) days of the activity of this user [5]. New users are usually not so combative. - Pernambuco 06:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply

Hi Khoikoi, i would suggest rename and rewrite. The massacres seem notable and verifiable from the sources he has provided, but attributing it to a genocide seems like original research. Thanks, --A.Garnet 12:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC)