RexxS

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Peer review newsletter #1

Introduction

Hello to all! I do not intend to write a regular peer review newsletter but there does occasionally come a time when those interested in contributing to peer review should be contacted, and now is one. I've mailed this out to everyone on the peer review volunteers list, and some editors that have contributed to past discussions. Apologies if I've left you off or contacted you and you didn't want it. Next time there is a newsletter / mass message it will be opt in (here), I'll talk about this below - but first:

  • THANK YOU! I want to thank you for your contributions and for volunteering on the list to help out at peer review. Thank you!
  • Peer review is useful! It's good to have an active peer review process. This is often the way that we help new or developing editors understand our ways, and improve the quality of their editing - so it fills an important and necessary gap between the teahouse (kindly introduction to our Wikiways) and GA and FA reviews (specific standards uphelp according to a set of quality criteria). And we should try and improve this process where possible (automate, simplify) so it can be used and maintained easily.

Updates

It can get quite lonely tinkering with peer review...
With a bit of effort we can renovate the place to look like this!

Update #1: the peer review volunteers list is changing

The list is here in case you've forgotten: WP:PRV. Kadane has kindly offered to create a bot that will ping editors on the volunteers list with unanswered reviews in their chosen subject areas every so often. You can choose the time interval by changing the "contact" parameter. Options are "never", "monthly", "quarterly", "halfyearly", and "annually". For example:

  • {{PRV|JohnSmith|History of engineering|contact=monthly}} - if placed in the "History" section, JohnSmith will receive an automatic update every month about unanswered peer reviews relating to history.
  • {{PRV|JaneSmith|Mesopotamian geography, Norwegian fjords|contact=annually}} - if placed in the "Geography" section, JaneSmith will receive an automatic update every yearly about unanswered peer reviews in the geography area.

We can at this stage only use the broad peer review section titles to guide what reviews you'd like, but that's better than nothing! You can also set an interest in multiple separate subject areas that will be updated at different times.

Update #2: a (lean) WikiProject Peer review

I don't think we need a WikiProject with a giant bureaucracy nor all sorts of whiz-bang features. However over the last few years I've found there are times when it would have been useful to have a list of editors that would like to contribute to discussions about the peer review process (e.g. instructions, layout, automation, simplification etc.). Also, it can get kind of lonely on the talk page as I am (correct me if I'm wrong) the only regular contributor, with most editors moving on after 6 - 12 months.

So, I've decided to create "WikiProject Peer review". If you'd like to contribute to the WikiProject, or make yourself available for future newsletters or contact, please add yourself to the list of members.

Update #3: advertising

We plan to do some advertising of peer review, to let editors know about it and how to volunteer to help, at a couple of different venues (Signpost, Village pump, Teahouse etc.) - but have been waiting until we get this bot + WikiProject set up so we have a way to help interested editors make more enduring contributions. So consider yourself forewarned!

And... that's it!

I wish you all well on your Wikivoyages, Tom (LT) (talk) 00:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hi RexxS. I've been working on {{Commons category/sandbox}} to try to improve its connection with Wikidata (following up on the RfC). It would be quite useful to have a Lua function that fetches the Commons category sitelink either from the linked Wikidata entry or from topic's main category (P910), falling back to Commons category (P373) where there is no sitelink (or the only commons sitelink is to a gallery not a category). I think I can do that in an analogous way to the commons infobox sitelinks, using the "getSiteLink" function from Module:Wikidata plus a modified version of getQid from Module:WikidataIB that uses P910 rather than P301, but maybe you could write this in a neater way in a single Lua function? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:42, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Mike Peel: WikidataIB reads the sitelink from any wiki, with the bonus that it doesn't read the entire entity, so is cheaper and doesn't mess up watchlists.
For flag (Q14660):
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getSiteLink |qid=Q14660}} → Flag
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getSiteLink |qid=Q14660 |enwiki}} → Flag
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getSiteLink |qid=Q14660 |wiki=enwiki}} → Flag
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getSiteLink |qid=Q14660 |wiki=elwikiquote}} → Σημαία
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getSiteLink |qid=Q14660 |wiki=commonswiki}} → Flag
I've written what I think is what you asked for, except it doesn't discriminate between galleries and categories. I really would need some examples of where you want fallbacks, otherwise I'm just guessing.
For flag (Q14660), A Rake's Progress (Q300536):
  • Gallery: {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getCommonsLink |qid=Q14660}} → Flag
  • Category: {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getCommonsLink |qid=Q300536}} → Category:A Rake's Progress
  • The code just returns plain text or nothing. As there is always only one sitelink, it's simple to create whatever link you need within a template (Template:If then show may be useful). Let me know what needs changing. --RexxS (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! For the category item example, Hieronymus Bosch (Q130531) gives "Jheronimus Bosch" - which is good as the default. Ideally there would then also be an option "onlycategories" or something like that, so that it can return "Category:Hieronymus Bosch". Potentially this could be done by looking to see if the sitelink starts with "Category:", and only returning it if it does (with a fallback to P373 otherwise, or just returning blank if it can only find a gallery item). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:54, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
BTW, if P373 is used, it needs to be prefixed by "Category:", please. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:58, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Mike Peel: I've made one change to implement |onlycat= on the first sitelink:
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getCommonsLink |qid=Q130531}} → Jheronimus Bosch
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getCommonsLink |qid=Q130531 |onlycat=y}} → Category:Hieronymus Bosch
Is that enough? or might some of the fallbacks return galleries as well? --RexxS (talk) 21:09, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
That's perfect, thanks! If a category item or P373 returns a gallery, then that's a data issue that would need to be fixed, so I don't think that needs handling here. It's implemented in {{Commons category/sandbox}} now - I'll raise that for discussion and see if anyone can find any issues. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:14, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Mike Peel: Okay. I forgot to mention: you don't need to supply a qid if you're on the page in question; and |onlycategories= is an alias for |onlycat=. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 21:18, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Testing at 1999 FIFA Confederations Cup gives "Lua error in Module:WikidataIB/sandbox at line 421: attempt to index local 'sitelink' (a nil value).|Lua error in Module:WikidataIB/sandbox at line 421: attempt to index local 'sitelink' (a nil value).]" I guess because the item doesn't have a sitelink? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:12, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Mike Peel: yup – you can't extract the first nine characters of something that's nil. Fixed now. --RexxS (talk) 22:23, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Any chance of an extra option, please? It would be useful to be able to disable the use of P373, so that it's possible to track the cases where we're falling back to P373 rather than using the sitelink. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:19, 29 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Mike Peel: I think I've been able to implement a |fallback= parameter (alias |fb=), which defaults to true. Setting it to no/n/false/0 should disable using Commons category (P373). Do you have any cases to test on? --RexxS (talk) 21:50, 29 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Sorry for the slow reply. I found an example at Category:Millennia in China (Q6798748) / Category:Millennia in China:
{{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getCommonsLink |qid=Q6798748|fallback=True}} -> Category:China by millennium
{{#invoke:WikidataIB/sandbox |getCommonsLink |qid=Q6798748|fallback=False}} -> Category:China by millennium
So it's working well. [1] adds it to the template sandbox, it needs a bit more work on my side before that's ready to go live, though. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:40, 3 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
I am a horrible person who has removed the claim from Wikidata as it's inappropriate for that item. --Izno (talk) 22:48, 3 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Izno: That's fine, please also remove such bad links from Wikipedia as well! As penance, perhaps you could work through some of Category:Commons category link is on Wikidata using P373 as well? ;-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:52, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Mike Peel: If I had a known objective, that'd be swell. Document the purpose somewhere or another if you could and I'll poke in this weekend. ;) --Izno (talk) 05:05, 5 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Globe for coordinates

Hi RexxS. I've started a proposal/discussion at d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Astronomical coordinates about astronomical coordinates, and it turns out that coordinate location (P625) supports coordinates on different globes. Can you access the globe value from Lua? If so, being able to fetch the globe value would be a useful addition to WikidataIB, at the very least so that I can disable the map at commons:Category:Andromeda Galaxy, but perhaps also {{Sky}} here could be revised so that it can fetch the coordinates from Wikidata (or maybe that just needs a resync with {{Coord}}). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:39, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Mike Peel: For coordinate location (P625) Andromeda Galaxy (Q2469): {{examine |P625 | Q2469}}
Extended content
table#1 {
}
I can certainly read celestial sphere (Q12134) from there, as well as the lat/long and precision. But what would you want me to do with it? --RexxS (talk) 21:59, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
If you can return 'Q12134' from that, then I can use it to assemble some parser functions that show/hide the kartographer map, and change the geohack link. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:11, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Mike Peel: That's easy:
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB |getGlobe |Q2469}}
  • {{wdib |ps=1 |P625 |qid=Q2469}}
Let me know when you find the inevitable complication :P --RexxS (talk) 23:16, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the globe function. As a BTW, was there a way to remove the units? E.g., {{wdib |ps=1 |P6257 |qid=Q2469}} → 10.6847083 degree, can I just get the number and not "degree" somehow? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:38, 21 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Mike Peel: Yes, of course. I just have to write a bit more code that reads another parameter, |showunits= (alias |su=; default=true), and skips the bit of code that creates the unit display:
  • {{wdib |ps=1 |P6257 |qid=Q2469 |showunits=no}} → 10.6847083
I should warn you that the code still implements ranges, which may not necessarily play nicely with your intended use, whatever that is. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 13:16, 21 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, that works nicely. I'm trying to add astronomical coordinates to the infobox on commons [2], seems to be working OK at commons:Category:Andromeda Galaxy, now I just need to figure out how to tidy it up. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:46, 22 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Lua

Happening upon your protection request the other day got me curious about those modules. I have long had on my to-do list to learn Lua but I had a few minutes tonight to give it a try. I put together a module of my own that formats the song and album titles on my userpage of articles created and expanded. It's pretty neat. Much better than trying to muck through all that {{{template|}}}{{{stuff|}}}. Anyway, thanks for the inadvertent inspiration. Cheers, 28bytes (talk) 09:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

That's good to hear, 28bytes. Lua is much more powerful and elegant than the parser functions and magic words we use in templates, and it's very encouraging to see more folks taking an interest in it. If you want some simple exercises that work through Lua's basic features, you could check out the tasks I'm using for GCI at User:RexxS/GCI-Task01 02, 03, 04, 05, to User:RexxS/GCI-Task06, although looking at your module, you probably don't need them. Have fun! --RexxS (talk) 11:00, 8 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
I will check them out! Thanks. 28bytes (talk) 14:51, 8 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Merry Christmas

--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:36, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Seasons Greetings

 
It's the most wonderful time of the year. Wishing you peace and joy this holiday season!


dawnleelynn(talk) 17:13, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

It's already here!!

 

Happy Holidays!
Wishing you much joy & happiness now and every year!!
Merry Christmas - Happy Hanukkah‼️

  • When does New Year’s Day come before Christmas Day?
Every year!
  • What do you call a bankrupt Santa?
Saint Nickel-less.

🎁⛄️🎅🏻Atsme✍🏻📧 20:20, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello RexxS,

Reviewer of the Year
 

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.


Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

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Nomination for merging of Module:Cslist

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Beauty Shop

Hello! A type of electronic dragon/beast sent me here. It ranges from the size of a cat to a transit bus... Probably bigger than that, even. I am not going to argue with a flame spitting, potentially venomous editor. Can you help me make my user name pretty? (Additionally, as a Canadian editor, I smoked way to much weed this evening to stare into your goddamned cube. (I... can't... look... away...)

Thanks in advance, for any help you can throw my way! Best regards, from a friend of a friend. Hamster Sandwich (talk) 04:19, 19 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

I love that cube, it is very soothing, but truly it is a hole into which you throw time. I thought of putting it in my own talk page but life is too short. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:20, 19 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Hamster Sandwich: Any friend of 'Shonen is a friend of mine. I see, though, that it was the mighty 'Zilla who directed you here, so I will have to do the best I can to avoid incurring her wrath.
The stuff about rules is simple: you need to have a link to your talk page (at least); your signature must be legible; and it must not be more than 256 characters. It is also appreciated if it's not too gaudy or too large for the line.
There are lots of ways of customising a signature by changing font-size, colour and so on, and by adding decorations like shadows. Unfortunately, I don't know what you like, so it's difficult to recommend, but here are some ideas:
It's possible to combine these, as long as you stay within the 256 character limit. Why not try some of your own, change the colours, etc? Give me a ping if you want me to check anything. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 15:55, 19 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Not quite right regarding the links. A link to your user talk page is not mandatory, provided that another identifying link is present, see WP:SIGLINK - the requirements are any one or more of: a link to your user page; a link to your user talk page; a link to your contributions. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:00, 19 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the correction, Redrose64 – it makes sense that any of those links would be acceptable as you can get from any one of them to the others quite simply. I guess I ought to rephrase my summary above to recommend the talk page link as it's probably the most useful. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 22:28, 19 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
I'm hoping for something like "Hamster sandwicH" in a smoothy font and having the two sides of the sig doing the User/ Talk function. Although the Hamster with the split "Sandwich" is very exciting! Cheers! Hamster Sandwich (talk) 00:30, 20 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Hamster Sandwich: Fonts are a nightmare for web design because you don't know what fonts are installed on the reader's browser, so you have to guess what will work for most folk. It's been a bit better for designers since Google provided Google Fonts, but MediaWiki doesn't support them as far as I can see. Nevertheless, here's a possibility using one of Smoothy-cursive, Sofia, 'Monotype Corsiva', 'Apple Chancery', 'ITC Zapf Chancery', 'URW Chancery L', cursive:
That's something you could experiment with. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 16:30, 20 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

 
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Hi RexxS, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas
and a very Happy and Prosperous New Year,
Thanks for all your help and thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia,

   –Davey2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 14:50, 23 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Yo Ho Ho

ϢereSpielChequers 15:09, 23 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Yo

  None more Gothic Seasons Greetings  
Wishing you all the best for x-mass, hope it is a time of, some but not too much, cheer. Ceoil (talk) 22:21, 23 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
OK, I've tried viewing this on two different machines, and two different browsers. All combinations have black text on black background. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:09, 24 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
You can read the black-on-black text by selecting it with your mouse. Maproom (talk) 20:14, 25 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Best wishes

  Season's Greetings
Wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Adoration of the Shepherds (Cariani) is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 10:26, 23 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Merry Christmas

--Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:41, 25 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018

Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018
 

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