Talk:Munich massacre

Latest comment: 9 days ago by 76.139.178.134 in topic Incorrect death listed
Former good article nomineeMunich massacre was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 September 2024

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They were terrorists not militants 86.169.230.76 (talk) 20:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Bunnypranav (talk) 14:51, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

the terrorists did not demand the release of Andreas Baader of RAF in their communiqué

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As shown by Anna Greithanner, Dominik Aufleger and Robert Wolff in 2022 when they found a copy of the original communiqué in the Bavarian State Archives the terrorists of Black September did not demand the release of Andreas Baader but only of Ulrike Meinhof. Their article as showed that the formerly published number of to be released prisoners of about 236 was wrong since the list includes the names of 328. Thus the article should correct this mistake by removing Andreas Baader and including a section about common micsonceptions regarding the demands of Black September.

Link to the original german article: https://zeitgeschichte-online.de/kommentar/andreas-baader-ulrike-meinhof-und-hunderte-palaestinenserinnen and link to a (official) website including an upload of the original demands: https://www.erinnerungsort-fuerstenfeldbruck1972.de/en/police-operation-de 2003:102:B701:ED00:5534:EF4:F44F:E655 (talk) 16:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Corrections made to show the "original communiqué" cited does in fact only list the name of Ulrike Meinhof and not that of Andreas Baader, plus add inline citation/reference. Nightsturm (talk) 21:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

grammatical errors

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Ultimatum section: "Shortly before 5:00 am, the Munich police, the organizing committee, and paramedics were alerted. Ambulances arrived, and the blood-soaked Weinberg that the terrorists had thrown in front of the apartment building entrance (Connollystraße 31), who could not be saved, was recovered." This is poorly written overall but at a minimum change 'that' to who, in reference to a person.

News wire section: "Initial news reports published all over the world, indicated that all the hostages were alive and that all the attackers had been killed." This is not a grammatical sentence and is confusing as written. Most easily corrected with a comma after 'reports'. 2601:445:801:6F30:6168:FC43:BB71:8DA9 (talk) 07:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Engvar

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The article appears to have started in UK English ("armoured") and to now be a mixture of spellings. I propose to standardise it on the original version, per MOS:RETAIN. Any objections? John (talk) 08:01, 6 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sounds good to me. CWenger (^@) 16:54, 6 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think I'm done. There is still a lot of repetition in the article, and the section on Anton Fliegerbauer should probably either be a standalone article, or should be removed. John (talk) 21:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've just seen Talk:Munich massacre/Archive 4#Merger proposal. It seems this material was merged here a couple of yeas ago. Would we favour recreating it as an article, or removing it? Some of it is duplicative and most of the rest probably fails WP:NOTMEMORIAL. What do folks think? John (talk) 23:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 November 2024

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In the Ultimatum section of Ultimatum, negotiations and first rescue effort, last line of fourth paragraph, change "Minister of Defence" to "Minister of Defense" ParkerSolar (talk) 00:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: both are correct and no valid reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 01:35, 29 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Introduction is misleading

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The Introduction says that the Olympians who were held hostage were "later killed," but does not say by whom. This reads like an attempt to deflect accountability. The introduction should be edited to read "and took nine others hostage and later killed them during a failed rescue attempt."

Fielding99 (talk) 02:49, 14 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Rephrased for better clarity. Nightsturm (talk) 13:56, 14 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Incorrect death listed

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In the AFTERMATH section "Effect on the Games" it says quote: "...Carmel Eliash. During the memorial service, Eliash collapsed and died of a heart attack." After reading Carmel's page I discovered he survived this heart attack and was flown back to Israel, but died of a different heart attack the following year at a different unrelated ceremony. 76.139.178.134 (talk) 15:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

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