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Common names

There's a discussion on MSW3 and common names on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:05, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. No need to give my opinion there I think ;-). By the way, I am just uploading my new Mammal Taxonomy file (http://www.geocities.com/mammal_taxonomy/06-3.zip). I'll update the website when that's ready. Ucucha (talk) 14:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I think you should weigh in anyway. Or at least keep your eye on the discussion. Oh dear... and I'd *just* downloaded 05-8.zip! :) - UtherSRG (talk) 14:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

That's probably the reason the site was down ;-). I'll keep an eye on it, at least. Ucucha (talk) 14:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

The website still points to 05-8, btw. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:47, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

And your link to 06-3 above is to an empty zip file. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure? The "File Manager" says it's actually 2672 KB and I am able to download it. Ucucha (talk) 16:47, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

http://www.geocities.com/mammal_taxonomy/06-3.zip . Ucucha (talk) 17:00, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Try it on another computer... I was doing "save location as..." and getting a blank file. Just clicking gives me a redirect to http://us.share.geocities.com/mammal_taxonomy/06-3.zip and that gives a default Yahoo/Geocities "This page is not available." error. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

That's probably because it has been downloaded. The site will be up again in an hour or so (that has to do with the datalimit). Ucucha (talk) 17:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

new lepilemur species

Yup... I know about them: [1] Thanks, though! :) Care to translate your article into the three articles that would be on en:? - UtherSRG (talk) 17:38, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Tomorrow maybe... Ucucha (talk) 18:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

orangutan

There is some controversy over the spelling indicated in the opening line of this article. Please come to talk:orangutan and weigh in if you please. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:33, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Molecular support for Epitheria

I just thought you'd like to see this: Kriegs JO, Churakov G, Kiefmann M, Jordan U, Brosius J, Schmitz J. (2006) Retroposed Elements as Archives for the Evolutionary History of Placental Mammals. PLoS Biol 4(4): e91.[2] --Aranae 20:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, but I had seen it already. Do you know about the new Heteromys, Heteromys nubicolens? Ucucha (talk) 10:07, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience: "No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Note from the editor Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!

The last AC meeting (full log) Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Black-tufted Marmoset

Check out Talk:Black-tufted Marmoset and the recent history of the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I just answered about it. Ucucha (talk) 15:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

So I see. Thansk! I knew you'd have a good answer either way. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:39, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

White-footed Dunnart

Sir do u have this in dutch too? Please copy it. Enlil Ninlil 02:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm sorry. I just wrote the S. crassicaudata article because it has such a long name in Dutch ;-). The Dutch Wikipedia has 80 articles on marsupials. Ucucha (talk) 05:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

Barnstar Brigade The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date: "Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Information Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!

The last AC meeting (full log) The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly. A plea from the editor... The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Bunny Day!

May all the eggs you find in the bushes of life be happy eggs. Woof!

Never Cry Wolf 10:08, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot :-)! Ucucha (talk) 13:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower ^háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

Administrator Coaching The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service. This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins. Stressbusters The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome! Note from the editor As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!

The last AC meeting (full log) Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture 20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Tarsius lariang

Do we have a reference for this? (Yay! New species!) - UtherSRG (talk) 19:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

nl:Tarsius lariang. It's from Groves. Ucucha (talk) 19:32, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll translate it. Ucucha (talk) 19:32, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I just did. Can you correct my English if there are any mistakes? Thanks, Ucucha (talk) 19:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

You bet! I'll also update the reference with the DOI, URL and {{cite journal}} - UtherSRG (talk) 23:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Done. Take a look. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! Ucucha (talk) 05:33, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower ^háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Sofixit

Hi. Just thought you ought to know that the {{sofixit}} template is aimed at newcomers who don't know their way around. If you use it on more experienced editors, it just tends to wind them up - best to check before using it. All the best SP-KP 18:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Best just don't make me need using it. Why don't you just improve the article instead of adding pointless templates? Ucucha 19:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm actually quite offended by that comment. I gave you a friendly piece of advice to help you understand that something about one of your recent actions had the potential to upset other editors. I don't think it warranted that response. If you want me to, I'm very happy to explain why I chose to place a cleanup tag on that article rather than fixing it, to help you understand why this is the case, Please remember we're all supposed to get on harmoniously here, and reduce tension rather than create it. SP-KP 19:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I feel my last comment (and maybe also the {{sofixit}} one) was indeed far from being nice. Hopefully you'll accept my apologies. It's just I don't like such templates and I was a bit angry or so.

Apology accepted - we all feel like that from time to time SP-KP 11:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I think the best thing you could have done was just adding a comment on the talk page. I'd have fixed it anyway and I think that would be better than such templates. I believe templates will turn off readers from Wikipedia, because they'll think "Oh no, this article is very bad, there is even a special box to explain that it's so horrible" and they won't use Wikipedia anymore (the situation might be less severe in practice, but this is indeed how things can go). I think it's better to use the talk page than to use such a self-reference template, which is (as my limited experience tells me) often placed on articles that don't seem to be that bad. So, hopefully you'll understand my reaction a bit now. :-) Ucucha 20:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I think you have a fair point about the impact of expansion tags. I will think about whether in future to place them in articles, or on talk pages. SP-KP 11:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for accepting :-).

OK, thanks :-). Ucucha 11:36, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

New species / Nouvelles espèces

Hi, Ucucha. You have an answer to your message here. - Archipelago 20:12, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I rpelied earlier on my talk, but I've also now created Claire's Mouse Lemur based on your NL article. Please take a look and add/amend as needed. Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 13:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

UcuchaBot

UcuchaBot Is Not Acting Properly

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It made A duplicate. Please fix (List yours on Commons:Commons:Deletion requests) --E-Bod 06:43, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Priority of wolf names

How's your knowledge of the code? Would you mind checking out the debate at Talk:Eastern_Timber_Wolf? --Aranae 16:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

August Esperanza Newsletter

Program Feature: To-Do List The Esperanza To-Do List is a place where you may list any request, big or small, for assistance. If you need help with archiving your usertalk, for example, all you need to do is list it here and somebody will help you out. Likewise, if you need help with some area of editing on Wikipedia, list it here! Again, any matter, trivial or not, can be placed on this page. However, all matters listed on this page must not be of an argumentative nature. You do not need to be a member of Esperanza (or this program) to place or fulfill requests on this page. If you don't have any requests, consider coming by and fulfilling a few! This program has not been very active, but has lots of potential! What's New? In order to help proposed programs become specific enough to make into full-fledged programs, the In development section of the proposals page has been created. Proposals that are promising, but need to be organized in more detail are listed here. Please take a look at what is there, and help the proposals turn into programs. To improve both the layout and text of the front page, in an attempt to clarify the image of Esperanza, the front page is going to have some redesigning take place. Please take your creative minds to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Front page redesign to brainstorm good ideas. Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.

The last AC meeting (full log) In order to make sure all users who join Esperanza are welcomed, a list of volunteers who are willing to welcome new Esperanzians is at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Members#Esperanza_welcomers. Please add yourself if you are interested; we want to make sure all new Esperanza members are welcomed! The In development section of the proposals page has been created. Proposals page: Some proposals have been moved to the aforementioned "In development" section, some have been left as a proposal, and others have been archived. For those proposals that were a good idea but didn't necessarily constitute a program, General Esperanzial Actions has been created. Two small pieces of charter reform will be decided on in a straw poll at Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Governance. One involves filling the position of any councillors who may leave, the other involves reforming the charter. Until cooperation with the Kindness Campaign is better defined, it remains as a proposed program. There is a page for discussing the front page redesign. Signed... Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, Freakofnurture, and Titoxd 05:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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new marsupials

The change to made to List of monotremes and marsupials means that the following links and articles also need to be changed: Dasycercus, Mulgara, Dasycercus cristicauda, Dasyurini, Dasyurinae, Dasyuridae, Dasyuromorphia. In most, it's just as simple as duplicating your change or updating number of species. For Mulgara, the article will need to be editted and moved to the new name, and the incoming links and redirects will need to be updated. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

OK (The article is at [3]) Ucucha 14:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I updated mulgara so that it is no longer a species article but a genus article, instead of moving it as I suggested above. - 15:36, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

You edit-conflicted me. ;-) But the article is good now. Remember that there are also four species of Myoictis ;-). Ucucha 15:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)