Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daunte Wright riots

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Speedily closed for procedural reasons. It is clear that there will not be consensus to delete the article. People disagree about whether a merger is appropriate, but that discussion, per WP:MERGEPROP, belongs on the article's talk page, not at AfD. Sandstein 14:34, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Daunte Wright riots

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As a pretty ardent inclusionist, I find myself nominating an article for deletion for the first time. At this point, there is no rational reason to have a separate article on the unrest that has followed the killing of Daunte Wright. The scale of the unrest is easily covered in Killing of Daunte Wright without need for a separate article that repeats the same information. Moncrief (talk) 22:47, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - For some reason the link in the AfD banner is linking to the Tyson Walker discussion. Is that something someone else knows how to fix? Firefangledfeathers (talk) 00:12, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. DS (talk) 00:39, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now - There's no reason right now to think these protests/riots are going to stand out like the Ferguson unrest did. Love of Corey (talk) 00:43, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - There's no reason not to believe that, and besides "not standing out like the Ferguson unrest" is not a WP:DEL-REASON. Kire1975 (talk) 02:16, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - Merge small article to killing of Daunte Wright per WP:CHEAP, but do not delete the article history. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/Redirect to ~~2020–2021 Minneapolis–Saint Paul racial justice protests#Daunte Wright riots and looting, April 11–ongoing~~ Killing of Daunte Wright. I don't know if I would characterize this latest incident as a riot yet, for the most part there was some looting to local businesses that happened in Brooklyn Center and in parts of Minneapolis per media reports [1] [2] [3] [4] but not as widespread or destructive as last year. JayJay^{What did I do?} 00:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Given everyone elses comments I am changing the _target for merge/redirect to Killing of Daunte Wright. JayJay^{What did I do?} 16:22, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge...for now — It should simply be merged now, but, if the rioting continues and escalates, we should consider recreating it. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 00:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Killing of Daunte Wright, with some content probably also going to the Minn. protests page. "Daunte Wright riots" does not yet seem likely as the WP:COMMONNAME — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firefangledfeathers (talk • contribs)
Keep - has enough coverage in reliable sources to merit an article. Juno (talk) 04:39, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Killing of Daunte Wright per nom.—Mythdon (talk • contribs) 04:42, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - No one has cited any actual reasons for deletion per WP:DEL-REASON. It is a developing story getting worldwide coverage in reliable sources, Killing of Daunte Wright is already 10K+ characters in less than 48 hours. Per WP:SUMMARY and WP:LENGTH, very long articles should be WP:SPLIT. Kire1975 (talk) 05:22, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Killing of Daunte Wright and keep the current coverage in one article. There may come a time in the future when there may need to be sub-articles but initially putting everything in one place will make it easier to divide an article up later, if it gets too big, rather than having to merge everything first and potentially lose key information. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to killing of Daunte Wright. Premature split from a still short article. There's already misplacement of info, such as protesters in San Diego "called for justice and police reform," which I don't think anyone classifies as a riot, only on wiki in this article. - Featous (talk) 13:08, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Striking, per move of page to Daunte Wright protests, which expands its very narrow previous scope, and also the expansion of the two articles, per Tvc 15 below. - Featous (talk) 21:58, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article has developed better, and protests have expanded to other cities, suitable to keep separate for now. Albertaont (talk) 13:10, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to killing of Daunte Wright—the circumstances are much different than the previous summer's events in size and a full page may be yet unwarranted.
Merge to killing of Daunte Wright as this article is mostly just disaster porn without any historic context and background for the unrest. 156.98.136.27 (talk) 16:01, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. In the 24–48 hours since the pages were created, Killing of Daunte Wright is 30K+ characters and Daunte Wright protests is 20K+ characters, as of this writing. This page is already long enough to warrant a separate article from Killing of Daunte Wright, being 2/3 of its size, and is likely to continue to grow as a developing story covered in reliable sources. Tvc 15 (talk) 21:34, 13 April 2021 (UTC) Within only 24 hours, the page is already comparable to Breonna Taylor protests, which was created six months ago. Tvc 15 (talk) 23:22, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to killing of Daunte Wright Elishop (talk) 22:07, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to killing of Daunte Wright – these demonstrations don't have anywhere near the scale of the George Floyd protests. Songwaters (talk) 22:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - With respect, that's like saying a large lake should be deleted because it's not the size of the Pacific Ocean. Kire1975 (talk) 02:21, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to killing of Daunte Wright. All relevant information can be accommodated in that main article. WWGB (talk) 23:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As the nominator, please let me know if I need to change the name of the title of this page, now that the title of the article has been changed. Or feel free to do what's needed, if you know what's needed -- assuming anything more is. Moncrief (talk) 00:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This is a pretty lengthy article covering a very newsworthy event ImYourTurboLover (talk) 00:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm not going to vote Keep on my own nomination, but I will say that this article has improved considerably since I nominated it for AfD, and the name change has also helped. I would not be sad if it were kept, or I also heartily endorse merging. I sheepishly wish I had let my usual inclusionist side come to the surface this time too, and avoided a straight AfD when this article was in its infancy. Moncrief (talk) 02:41, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep At this current moment, in my opinion there has been enough to warrant this being an individual page. Jmchugh131 (talk) 03:17, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - AFD was premature. Kaldari (talk) 03:21, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are plenty of reliable sources cited in the article and the protests receive front-page coverage in many non-US media. The notability criteria are clearly met.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:03, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article is long enough that it's reasonable to be split from the original, and the protests alone are notable, warranting an individual article. Uses x (talk • contribs) 08:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep with expanded scope. A large enough separate topic to warrant its own article. Elli (talk | contribs) 08:33, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable enough as a separate topic, and the article has enough information now.Jackattack1597 (talk) 10:45, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article is sufficiently well developed to stand on its own, merge _targets are long enough to make maintaining separate articles reasonable. --Jayron 32 10:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, the article has been sufficiently well developed to stand on its own, and there is too much significant material here for merging. Both the protests and their fallout continue, as does their coverage. Nsk92 (talk) 11:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.