Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bolt (fabric)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. While there was some talk about redirecting, the only editor who thinks this should be deleted is the nominator, and since this discussion has had no new comments in a few days that aren't personal attacks, I'm closing it early. Discussions on content can continue on the article's talk page. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:47, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bolt (fabric)

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The opening sentence reads - "A bolt is a unit of measurement used as an industry standard for a variety of materials from wood to canvas, typically materials stored in a roll." - It is not a unit of measurement. Needs TNT. For info a bolt of fabric is just a chunk, of no defined length or width.Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 09:00, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is a fairly fundamental concept in an important industry – see The Fabric of Civilisation for a recent book on the subject. The worst case here would be merger into the glossary of textile manufacturing which currently does not have it. Note also that WP:TNT is an essay and so has "no official status". Andrew🐉(talk) 15:20, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could you possibly define a "bolt" for me Andrew? shouldn't be difficult for you? After all, you said it is an important concept in an important industry. +++ baits breath +++ -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 16:24, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As per WP:RESCUE recent edits [[1]]. RegardsRAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 15:42, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:15, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:30, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Glossary of textile manufacturing, where I've just added it. It's really a good candidate for a glossary as there's not a ton to say about it. It's a commercial unit. They make fabric, then they wrap them around a cardboard tube/flat, and either the tube itself or the roll of fabric with it is called a bolt. It's not a unit of measurement, it's a unit of inventory. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:49, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect As per Rhododendrites (I’d thought maybe to Textile but this suggestion is much better). Brunton (talk) 20:23, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Fundamental concept/term. Defined in the article. WP:Not paper; WP:Preserve. Article is not what it was when this deletion effort started. WP:HEY Exceeds WP:GNG. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:28, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:GNG and WP:HEY. Also, this term is used commonly enough on reality TV shows and in YouTube videos (such as Project Runway) that it's likely our core readership will expect to find this article on Wikipedia. Bearian (talk) 20:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Absolutely relevant concept in the fabric arts. The article sucks, but it's from lack of effort/interest, not from irrelevance. As long as humans have been making textiles, how they are organized, stored, and transported will have some kind of history. Silk road? Industrial Revolution? Haute couture? How about the etymology? Or even manufacturing specs? Anything less than a keep shows obvious Bias (textile) (pun intended) Estheim (talk) 23:57, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rolls of fabric. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 11:15, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. So what? WP:I don't like it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:21, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

They are not called bolts. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 13:54, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they are. Maybe not by you. WP:Verifiability not WP:Truth. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:57, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But the refs used do not support bolts. What do I not understand? -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 14:04, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can't read your mind. You are wrong. As you already observed on the article talk page, WP:Competence is required. I WP:AGF. But if you aren't convinced already, there is nothing to add. Bolt (2nd ed.). University of Glasgow. {{cite book}}: |work= ignored (help) What we have here is a failure to communicate. I'm done here. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:24, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much and regards RV (talk) 05:00, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment nothing so far has changed my mind about the need to delete this article. Perhaps the best solution suggested here is by Rhododendrites, supported by Brunton, to redirect to Glossary of textile manufacturing where it is given the prominence it needs. The inaccuracies and incorrectness remaining in this article will then simply vanish. I have also suggested, on my Talk page, to Seven and Six, is to rename this article to Roll (fabric), which will negate all the nonsense about bolts. Any thoughts? -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 14:59, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If we consolidated bolts into Roll, that would be alright. But it would include the information about Bolts. User:Roxy the dog's pejorative argument changes nothing. It is not "nonsense" unlike the argument. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:07, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which info about bolts (fabric) would you wish to see in an article about (fabric) rolls? off topic wallpaper stuff could go into its own article, if necessary. (Also, "perjorative"? Are you a member of Project ARSehole too. It would explain a lot.) -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 15:43, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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