Property talk:P509
Documentation
underlying or immediate cause of death. Underlying cause (e.g. car accident, stomach cancer) preferred. Use 'manner of death' (P1196) for broadest category, e.g. natural causes, accident, homicide, suicide
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#Type Q215627, Q7239, Q16334298, Q21070598, Q14514600, Q95074, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#Item P21, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#Item P570, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#Value type Q2057971, Q2485083, Q15169167, Q171558, Q124490, Q650711, Q1520311, Q1931388, Q33753, Q61915880, SPARQL
Replacement property:
Replacement values: (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#none of, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#citation needed
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#Item P1196, search, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#Scope, SPARQL
Replacement property:
Replacement values: gunshot wound (Q2140674) (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#none of, SPARQL
Replacement property:
Replacement values: shot to the head (Q15824243) (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#none of, SPARQL
Replacement property:
Replacement values: murder (Q132821) (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P509#none of, SPARQL
Value electric chair (Q185639) will be automatically replaced to value electrocution (Q3587621). Testing: TODO list |
Value execution by hanging (Q11608124) will be automatically replaced to value hanging (Q175111). Testing: TODO list |
Value execution by firing squad (Q216169) will be automatically replaced to value gunshot wound (Q2140674). Testing: TODO list |
Value guillotine (Q128015) will be automatically replaced to value decapitation by guillotine (Q56649284). Testing: TODO list |
Value gas chamber (Q205348) will be automatically replaced to value asphyxia (Q193840). Testing: TODO list |
Value suicide by hanging (Q7883956) will be automatically replaced to value hanging (Q175111). Testing: TODO list |
Value suicide by shooting (Q39917302) will be automatically replaced to value gunshot wound (Q2140674). Testing: TODO list |
Value natural causes (Q3739104) will be automatically replaced to value natural causes (Q3739104) and moved to manner of death (P1196) property. Testing: TODO list |
Value accident (Q171558) will be automatically replaced to value accidental death (Q21142718) and moved to manner of death (P1196) property. Testing: TODO list |
Value accidental death (Q21142718) will be automatically replaced to value accidental death (Q21142718) and moved to manner of death (P1196) property. Testing: TODO list |
Value suicide (Q10737) will be automatically replaced to value suicide (Q10737) and moved to manner of death (P1196) property. Testing: TODO list |
Value murder (Q132821) will be automatically replaced to value homicide (Q149086) and moved to manner of death (P1196) property. Testing: TODO list |
Value homicide (Q149086) will be automatically replaced to value homicide (Q149086) and moved to manner of death (P1196) property. Testing: TODO list |
Value unnatural death (Q855919) will be automatically replaced to value unnatural death (Q855919) and moved to manner of death (P1196) property. Testing: TODO list |
Value pending investigation (Q15729048) will be automatically replaced to value pending investigation (Q15729048) and moved to manner of death (P1196) property. Testing: TODO list |
Value capital punishment (Q8454) will be automatically replaced to value capital punishment (Q8454) and moved to manner of death (P1196) property. Testing: TODO list |
If property value equals to cancer (Q12078) then claim manner of death (P1196) = natural causes (Q3739104) will be created automatically. Testing: TODO list |
If property value equals to tuberculosis (Q12204) then claim manner of death (P1196) = natural causes (Q3739104) will be created automatically. Testing: TODO list |
Value gunshot (Q2992372) will be automatically replaced to value gunshot wound (Q2140674). Testing: TODO list |
Value fall (Q11620540) will be automatically replaced to value falling from height (Q11637534). Testing: TODO list |
Value COVID-19 pandemic (Q81068910) will be automatically replaced to value COVID-19 (Q84263196). Testing: TODO list |
This property is being used by:
Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.) |
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Property proposal discussions
editValues
editCurrently the property combines a few different concepts in my opinion. That means that we potentially can increase the data structure. Some subgroups I noticed are:
- Diseases
- Life ending methods (e.g. decapitation, stoning)
- Circumstances of death (e.g. accident, assassination, plane crash, duel)
- Life ending tools (e.g. shell (Q318028), land mine)
We could also add the details into the qualifier:
- Cause of death: murder
- circumstance of death: robbery
- life ending device: gun
- life ending trauma: gunshot wound
or
- Cause of death: disease
- circumstance of death: contracted disease
- disease: malaria
- life ending trauma: multiple organ failure
Examples are not well thought out, but its just something to think about for the future. --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:22, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Emw: Can you take a look at this the next time you have time? --Tobias1984 (talk) 15:40, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
- I agree, this one has become messy. Murder is not a cause of death. There's some causes on this page: List of causes of death by rate. A new property such as circumstances of death may be useful for claiming some on was murdered, etc. Danrok (talk) 01:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- @Danrok, Emw: I think Emw would suggest that the new property should be independent (and not a qualifier as in my example above). --Tobias1984 (talk) 12:27, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
- I agree, this one has become messy. Murder is not a cause of death. There's some causes on this page: List of causes of death by rate. A new property such as circumstances of death may be useful for claiming some on was murdered, etc. Danrok (talk) 01:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Single value?
editIt is quite common that a death has several causes, see for example Henrik Ibsen. Jeblad (talk) 10:07, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Some improvements
editI propose to change
with
(may be to add something about Q216169 (manner of death (P1196)?). And I feel that values Armenian genocide (Q80034), Smolensk air disaster (Q131311) should be changed somehow but I can't propose with what. --Infovarius (talk) 07:30, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hm, but this is a loss of information. How to keep gunshot wound (Q2140674)? --Infovarius (talk) 15:46, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Date of birth necessary?
editIt says "An entity with cause of death should also have a statement date of birth." Why? This means that a person of who the date of birth is unknown, which isn't uncommon for persons who lived in the Middle Ages, cannot have a cause of death? Weird... --HRvO (talk) 09:53, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- @HRvO: I'm not sure why that would be specified. It might mean that it's preferable, but not mandatory. - Bossanoven ( talk) 11:46, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
- I'm also getting this warning, while editing the item for a person whose date of birth is unknown. Date of birth is unrelated to cause of death. This should not be a constraint. --Infomuse (talk) 01:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- If the date of birth is unknown, there should be a date of birth statement with a value of "unknown". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:46, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
- It makes no sense at all adding birth dates with "unknown" value just to avoid a warning that shouldn't be there in first place. Therefore, I was bold and removed it.--DarwIn (talk) 04:07, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Need constraint to prevent it from being used in places like mechlorethamine exposure (Q21513721)
editCurrently cause of death (P509) is used incorrectly on mechlorethamine exposure (Q21513721) - this should be prevented by a constraint.
Single value constraint
editWe should remove the single value constraint. In the UK, for example, it is usual to have up to three causes on a death certificate. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:45, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
- I removed the single value constraint given that nobody objected. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 23:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Killed in Action
editkilled in action (Q210392) doesn't belong here. It should be recorded as manner of death (P1196)death in battle (Q18663901) and military casualty classification (P1347)killed in action (Q210392). (And I would additionally merge those values or killed in action (Q210392)subclass of (P279)death in battle (Q18663901), but that's less clear) --Matthias Winkelmann (talk) 18:08, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Fictional Characters
editIs there a way to remove the date of death constraint for fictional characters? Koziarke (talk) 16:29, 11 December 2022 (UTC)