Wikidata:Property proposal/Basketballnavi.DB player ID
Basketballnavi.DB player ID
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Under discussion
| Description | identifier for a basketball player in Japanese league (2005-2022) on the Basketballnavi.DB |
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| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | basketball player (Q3665646) |
| Example 1 | Takehiko Orimo (Q14917533) → 225 |
| Example 2 | J. R. Sakuragi (Q568898) → 413 |
| Example 3 | Yuta Tabuse (Q952047) → 662 |
| Source | https://stats.basketballnavi.com/ |
| Formatter URL | https://stats.basketballnavi.com/player.pl?pl_id=$1 |
Motivation
edit{{Basketball properties}}, Basketballnavi.DB include bj league (Q290219) (bj, 2005-2016), Japan Basketball League (Q2713205) (jbl, 2007-2013), National Basketball League (Q1283776) (nbl, 2013-2016), National Basketball Development League (Q18391591) (nbdl, 2013-2016), Japan Professional Basketball League (Q20044878) (b1&b2, 2016-2022), Japan Basketball League (Q28682244) (b3, 2016-2022).--HanTsî (talk) 19:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
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Notified participants of WikiProject Basketball, Notified participants of WikiProject Sports, Notified participants of WikiProject Japan--HanTsî (talk) 19:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)- The site is operated personally, saying "The site will be operational until December 31, 2024" so I am reluctant to support the creation of property for such potentially unstable site. Mzaki (talk) 00:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Mzaki, That's the new website (2022-present) running until the end of the year, not the old website (2005-2022). The old website had 2181 players, all of pages were archived on September 15, 2024. zh:Special:Diff/84218827 [1] HanTsî (talk) 07:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but both are operated by the same person. There is no reason we can believe the old one is kept being managed in the next year. This means we cannot ensure the reliability of this data source for a long-term basis. If and only-if the community reaches the agreement on the reliability of this data source in an as-is basis through this discussion, the property will work based on the archived data. In that case, we should use an archive URL as the formatter. Mzaki (talk) 07:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Mzaki, Basketballnavi.DB only contains regular season stats. There are currently three websites that collect Japanese league stats, Eurobasket.com player ID (P3527) (regular season and playoffs together), Proballers ID (P8548) (regular season and playoffs separately) and RealGM basketball player ID (P3957) (regular season and playoffs together). Eurobasket.com requires payment to view career stats, but Eurobasket.com is also the most complete website among the three.
- Eurobasket.com
- Proballers
- JBL / NBL / B1（2008-present）
- BJ / B2（2010-2012 / 2019-present）
- RealGM
- Basketballnavi.DB
- BJ（2005-2016）
- JBL（2007-2013）
- NBL（2013-2016）
- NBDL（2013-2016）
- B1 / B2 / B3（2016-2022）
- Since Levanga Hokkaido only played in the playoffs in the 2015-16 season, Takehiko Orimo (Q14917533) can be used to check whether the stats of Basketballnavi.DB is reliable or not.
- career stats:Basketballnavi.DB, Eurobasket.com (screenshot) ,Proballers, RealGM
- 2013-14 season game log:Basketballnavi.DB, Eurobasket.com (screenshot) ,Proballers, RealGM HanTsî (talk) 08:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Mzaki, Basketballnavi.DB only contains regular season stats. There are currently three websites that collect Japanese league stats, Eurobasket.com player ID (P3527) (regular season and playoffs together), Proballers ID (P8548) (regular season and playoffs separately) and RealGM basketball player ID (P3957) (regular season and playoffs together). Eurobasket.com requires payment to view career stats, but Eurobasket.com is also the most complete website among the three.
- Yes, but both are operated by the same person. There is no reason we can believe the old one is kept being managed in the next year. This means we cannot ensure the reliability of this data source for a long-term basis. If and only-if the community reaches the agreement on the reliability of this data source in an as-is basis through this discussion, the property will work based on the archived data. In that case, we should use an archive URL as the formatter. Mzaki (talk) 07:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Mzaki, That's the new website (2022-present) running until the end of the year, not the old website (2005-2022). The old website had 2181 players, all of pages were archived on September 15, 2024. zh:Special:Diff/84218827 [1] HanTsî (talk) 07:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)