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This is the page to make suggestions for requested illustrations. Please comment on each others' suggestions and see if resources exist already. Comments about significance or importance are also welcome. Mayflower search engine for Commons, Free Image Search Tool

• At this stage, illustration means diagrams. Not photographs, charts, or maps.
• Requests should be for a specific page (within a Wikimedia project) or concept.
• If the significance or importance of the topic is not obvious, please briefly explain it.
• Link to any existing free content images that could be adapted to fulfil the request.

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* Brief explanation of significance
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Suggestions

Improve diagrams of bridge trusses

• creation/improvement/redo : The current diagramming for bridge truss types is spotty. There are some good ones and some marginal ones.
  • One example of a pretty important small truss, the King post truss: Image:King post truss.png ... A nice clean diagram that is attractive and easy on the eyes.
  • Another important one (for covered bridges, for example) the Town truss or lattice truss. Image:Town truss2.jpg... taken from the original patent, not as good.
  • And another example, for the Pratt truss: Image:Pratt truss.PNG... this drawing is yet a third style of diagram, much simpler than the first. It's servicable but not as attractive as the King post.
  • For more examples see Truss bridge ... there are a lot of truss types and the illustrations vary.
• Significance: Trusses are a basic thing to document in an encyclopedia. Our coverage is spotty and stylistically inconsistent. This is a pretty easy project (one or two days work ought to do it once the style was chosen) compared to the above animation of a complex biological system so it might be a good one to test out process and so forth. Or, it might be one that is not a good fit, so discussing why or why not might help define this overall project even if we reject this particular one.
• ++Lar: t/c 16:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

• • Doing a set of these may be a good one to use for newcomers as they are relatively simple to construct.
  • However the topic would be relatively lower on the 'importance' scale as they are specific to bridge construction only, and even then are only one type of bridge. (Comparing the interwiki links, Truss bridges has 3, whereas Action potential has 19.)
  • Another consideration is, could this topic be equally or even better illustrated by an actual photograph? That seems quite likely to me. (Although virtually everything benefits from an idealised illustration, some things can't really be photographed adequately)
  • Is that helpful? --pfctdayelise 12:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Yep, very (but as the coord, I ask you is the suggestion helpful in the first place to drive thinking?). I floated this as a trial but I'd point out that I'm not convinced the articles are organized correctly in this area. Trusses have structural significance beyond just bridges (although most non bridge trusses, like floor trusses or stadium roof trusses, etc, tend to be simple) and the articles are a bit of a jumble. So the 3 interwikis may be due to underrecognition. I also agree that this is very easy and maybe someone could be persuaded to bang them out without needing to get a token monetary reward. I'm not sure pictures illustrate trusses as well as diagrams (as with many mechanical things, stripping away detail often clarifies what is important. Consider Image:TripleExpansionMed.jpg (a picture) vs. Image:Christopher_Columbus_whaleback_ccengine_crop.jpg (an engraving) vs. Image:Triple_expansion_engine_animation.gif (animated cutaway diagram) ... (all taken from w:Steam engine. That is an extreme example of course but it shows how much more clarity a diagram can bring. Also consider the single cylinder diagram with annotations a bit above it. But ya. The biology one above is much more important in the grand scheme of things. ++Lar: t/c 17:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• • • • Yes, it was a helpful suggestion. :) pfctdayelise 13:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Metabolic Pathways

Improve the w:Wikipedia:Wikiproject_Metabolic_Pathways : translate in more languages, draw more reactions, etc. VIGNERON * ^discut. 12:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

• Which specific subjects or topics? It would be good for this wikiproject to figure out a priority list: which images should be the most important, the most necessary, the most needed? pfctdayelise 13:30, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Map icons

We have to few free map icons in a acceptable quality. See commons:Simple map icons / commons:Category:Map icons. We could really need them for geographical services like Wikipedia-World. --Kolossos 14:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I think these icons are too simple for the scope of this project. The biggest problem for these illustrations is what to depict not how to depict it. --seav 10:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• Can you give more specific examples of what is needed? Is there a list?
• Is there a comparable existing resource (perhaps copyrighted) that can be used as a reference or comparison?
• Does the Open Clipart project not have anything acceptable?

--pfctdayelise 11:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

A comparable existing resource are e.g. the icons in Gogle Earth. They work with colors and transperancy. But they are also very commercial oriented (hotels, bars, shops, etc.). At http://openclipart.org I found nothing. I would prefer something in KDE-style.

The problem with the simplicity of one icon can be solved if an whole icon set would be estimated. I believe it's not so easy to make a simple small icon which is understandable in the whole world.

A list with necessary icons for the Wikipedia-World-Project can found at the end of info.php, there are train stations, churchs, castles, manor-houses,mountains, volcanos, monuments, companies, cemetery, zoo, caves and many more. --Kolossos 12:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

I do not think that this problem can only solved spending Mr Greenspun's money --134.130.68.65 23:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Musical instrument diagrams

We have a few great SVG diagrams of musical instruments, but there are many other instruments that could use one. Currently, we have a drum kit, a very nice trombone, a few relating to trumpets and a whole bunch about pianos (found here). Besides those, I haven't found anything worth using. We're surprisingly lacking in this area. I would love to see any new instrument diagrams, but specifically these are what I have in mind:

French horn (30 Wikipedias) - A couple good photos, no illustrations.

• What we have: Image:French horn back labelled.png, Image:French horn front labelled.png, Image:French horn mouthpiece.jpg
• That's about it.

Violin (63 Wikipedias) - Most are photographs. A cross-section view and a full view would be nice. Maybe a whole matching series?

• What we have: Image:Violinconsruction3.JPG, Image:Violin bout cross section.png, Image:Violinschnitt.png, Image:Violin made in about 1770-numbered.jpg, Image:Violin bow parts.jpg, Image:Violin peg strings.jpg
• The closest thing we have is Image:Table violon sous presse.svg

Bagpipe (34 Wikipedias) - Not too much here.

• What we have: Image:Annotated stand of great highland bagpipe.jpg, Image:Swedish bagpipes built by Alban Faust.jpg, Image:Asturian pipe soplete.jpg, Image:Asturian pipe.jpg, Image:Asturian pipe roncon.jpg

Guitar (64 Wikipedias) - For something this popular, I would think we would have something better. Detailed closeups of the headstock and neck are needed.

• What we have: Image:Détail tête guitare.jpg, Image:Acoustic guitar parts.png,Image:Guitaranatomy.jpg, Image:Elements guitare classique.png, Image:Classical Guitar est lang.jpg, Image:Guitar headstock angle.png
• Related SVGs: Image:Fingerboard scheme.svg, Image:Guitar neck.svg and some outlined headstock shapes

Bassoon (38 Wikipedias) - One poor quality SVG lacking in detail.

• What we have: Image:Fagott-Bassoon.svg, Image:Bassoon parts.jpg, Image:FoxBassoon.jpg, Image:Praetorius bassoons.jpg
• We don't even have many photographs of certain variations like the contrabassoon (I only found one).

These are just some suggestions, there's lots of other choices, like the upright bass, saxophone, or clarinet.

Maybe one or two of these could be US$15 ones since they're not too complicated. Possibly some good easy requests to start this off? Rocket000 05:01, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• Definitely good suggestions, widely relevant, and thanks for the research. --pfctdayelise 11:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Tree of Life

Commonly, w:evolution and w:phylogenetics are illustrated by a nice "tree of life"-illustration: E.g. [1] (it is not very pretty, but you'll get the general idea), with pictures of representative animals representing the different groups. Such an illustration would look good at the top of e.g. the evolution page compared to the primitive picture we have currently. en:User:Kjaergaard

A library of hydraulic symbols

• Creation: A library of hydraulic symbols. It would need to have at least 20-30 different basic symbols, in SVG format, done in such a way that they could easily be combined together (same size, with common elements in the same place etc; a number of symbols exists in a number of small variations and it would be senseless to have them all).
• For a list of symbols see [2].
• Hydraulic symbols are (obviously) very important in hydraulics, and each article on a hydraulic component should include information about its symbol(s). However, currently, the only hydraulic symbol I know of on any Wikimedia project is Image:Hydraulic accumulator (symbol).svg (there are also a few hydraulic circuits, like Image:Hydraulic circuits 300px.png). A library of hydraulic symbols would also make it easy to draw hydraulic circuits when they are needed, and make them more uniform. Outside of Wikimedia projects, such a library could find use in circuit drawing programs.
• Nikola 22:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

• • Quite a good idea, since they appear to be relatively simple the request could be for such a "set" of symbols that could then easily be mixed and matched to make whatever diagram was needed. pfctdayelise 13:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

We have to clear if the symbols in the PDF are eligible for copyright (in Germany they are definitively not copyrighted). As Lupo at en or Commons --Histo 23:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Diagrams of vehicles

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  Tugboat
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• Creation of diagrams of main vehicle types, then of more precise vehicle types.
• The two example above illustrate what I mean : we need diagrams to explain the main parts of the vehicles. My main interest lies in ships, so I would imagine diagrams of main ship types : cargo ship, warship, fishing boat. Then of more precise types : container carrier, icebreaker, etc. A possible quality reference is Klaas van Dokkum, Ship knowledge : a modern encyclopedia, DOKMAR, Enkhuizen, Netherlands, 2005 (ISBN 9080633062), which has this kind of well-drawn diagrams. Not free though :-)
• Ideally diagrams should have natural colours, should be reviewed by people who know the differents vehicle types, and possibly should allow a small view inside the vehicle (if appropriate) to see key features (eg layout of seats in an airplane, engine and cargo in a ship, etc.)
• le Korrigan →bla 15:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

• • Yes, very good, but do you have any specifics in mind? :) --pfctdayelise 07:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Sorry, small language issue, what do you mean by "specifics" ? Do you mean particular types of vehicles, or features I would like to see represented ? le Korrigan →bla 10:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
      • I meant particular types of vehicles. pfctdayelise 13:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
        • In this case, I was thinking at cargo ships (general cargo ship, bulk carrier, container ship, RoRo ship, car carrier, livestock carrier, reefer, oil tanker, chemical tanker, LPG/LNG carriers, heavy-lift ship) ; passenger ships (ferry and fast ferry, liner, cruise ship) ; specialised ships (icebreaker, cable ship, dredge, semi-submersible, offshore vessel, oceanographic/research ship) ; service ships (tugboat, mooring boat, lightship, pilot boat, fireboat) ; naval ships (corvette, frigate, destroyer, cruiser, battlehsip, aircraft carrier, attack submarine, missile submarine, minesweeper/minehunter, intelligence ship, assault ship) ; fishing vessels (standard fishing boat, trawler, tuna fishing boat, oyster fishing boat) ; some historical ship types can also be illustrated like galleys, junks, Viking boats, Atakebune, ships of the line, clippers... see w:fr:Liste des types de navires. le Korrigan →bla 14:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Vehicle Animated components

• Motors -- 2 stroke, 4 stroke, electric, and jet turbine
• Vehicle drive train -- 2wd and 4wd
• Gearboxes(manual automatic), diffs, cooling systems etc

A Quick look through commons turns up some nice static diagrams(eg, Image:Four stroke cycle spark.png, Image:FrankMotor.png) but no animations Gnangarra 13:05, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for giving all those examples; sounds like you know your ships. I agree we're lacking in this area. Maybe it would be better if we did diagrams of major components the many ships share? And maybe a comparison chart? I'm reminded of first learning about the types of ships playing Battleship as a kid. :) I think I remember seeing an engine animation somewhere... Rocket000 07:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah, here we go: Commons:Category:Animation of Engines. Rocket000 07:33, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, drawing parts of them would be useful too. We can think at an engine room floor, a compass bridge arrangement, the steering mechanism, cranes and cargo handling equipment, the sensors (sonar, radar, etc.) and weapons (self-defense & offensive) on naval ships, etc. But overall diagrams are indeed very useful in order to explain the basics of shipping in articles. I find myself missing a good diagram of a cargo ship in order to develop the corresponding article. So I have to write three-four paragraphs just to say waht one picture would describe elegantly. One of the only diagrams we have are Image:Lod Schema.png (which is very poor : completely inaccurate, not corresponding to an actual ship type, arrows are misplaced... all wrong) and Image:Tugboat diagram-en.svg (nice but depicts an outdated tugboat and has been drawn by someone who doesn't know much about tugs, so it mixes straightforward labels with more complex ones). le Korrigan →bla 10:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC) (and I also learnt ship types by playing battleship :-))

You missed tanks.Geni 20:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I miss most non-water-based vehicles, really ! For land-based vehicles, the list can be quite long as well, from kick scooters to tanks, including rubbish collection trucks or ambulances :-) le Korrigan →bla 00:41, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Regarding ships, I would like to see a comparison of the various maximum sized ships that are in the world - panamax, seawaymax, aframax, Handymax and suezmax. I was thinking something along the lines of this image for the world's largest planes. Witty lama 13:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Pictures of body functions

Some preferably schematic moving pictures that explain the mechanism of:

• breathing
• coughing, an asthma attack
• vomiting
• the peristaltic movement in the intestines
• ovulation
• the signal exchange in nerves
• the action of the heart
• the reflex of the pupil (eye)
• a renal colic

I understand that pictures like these would be beneficial in education.. I have been asked if such material is available by a teacher of nursing. GerardM 13:54, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Some of those would make great animations (though I wouldn't want to see vomiting ;) Rocket000 17:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

For understanding what vomiting is, it really helps :) GerardM 09:54, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

An ovulation one in German: de:Bild:Vorgaenge im eierstock.png --pfctdayelise 12:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Breathing: Image:Diafragma ademhaling.gif --pfctdayelise 20:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

b:First Aid

• Adaption: The images for head-tilt chin-lift needs to be redone showing the force exerted on the head and chin (ie. direction to tilt and lift), also showing the final position with the jawline perpendicular to the ground. This could be an animation, or two images. Also a diagram of the oral airway inserted properly - an animation showing the rotation during insertion would be excellent, but could also be several images. An animation for insertion of the oral airway would be ideal since it's extremely difficult to learn without hands-on training, and very difficult to explain in text. A simple animation of say 5 frames could do the job nicely.
  • Image:Atemwege zu.JPG and Image:Atemwege frei.JPG show the head-tilt chin-lift, but have no labels, and don't include how to do it.
• Creation: Echoing the above request: a diagram showing an asthma attack, stroke/TIA, and a graph of the relative concentrations of blood gasses during hyperventilation as a function of time and breathing rate.
• Importance:The head-tilt chin-lift is probably the most crucial technique in first aid, but is a tad difficult to explain in such a way that candidates do it properly. A clear diagram or animation should help readers understand the technique and why it's so important to do it right.
• The other images are needed to properly illustrate concepts that are lengthy when put into words; a well-done diagram in these cases could replace entire sections of text. They're difficult concepts to grasp, being among the more advanced in the book. These would obviously be useful on other projects, specifically Wikipedia. Multiple languages would be ideal, but I'm only requesting English text for now; translations would be easy to do later.
•  – Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 16:04, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure where it stands in the current training regime, but I prefer the jaw-thrust maneuver rather than the head-tilt jaw-thrust maneuver. -24.63.243.7 18:37, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

That technique is no longer used by lay rescuers because it doesn't work.  – Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 16:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Textile arts

"Double crochet" and "treble crochet" have entirely different meanings in the U.S. and U.K., but crochet schematics are international.

This would be a boon to the underdeveloped textile arts area. For example, a standard international schematic notation exists for crochet but the terminology is inconsistent. Photographs are often unclear so good schematics are essential to any technical discussion of the subject. An article on one traditional motif recently got highlighted at the English Wikipedia's main page as a "Did you know" spotlight.[3] I'd be glad to bring someone with the proper graphics skills up to speed if they're willing to help, and I'll even offer a reward: help out and I'll make some crochet for you. Cheers, Durova 20:05, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Which specific topic or concept do you want to request for? pfctdayelise 11:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Crochet notation would be a great place to start. I want to create a list for the basic stitches and motifs. International symbols would be a great adjunct to the swatches I'm creating. Durova 04:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Euglena

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Would it be possible to get a better diagram created of the structures of euglenas? The two existing diagrams (above) leave much to be desired. Euglenas are important organisms for understanding the evolution of the eye. Copyrighted diagrams for reference: [4][5][6][7] Kaldari 21:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I added the third one. It's not great, but it's better than the other two. Rocket000 17:25, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't know about that one. If it had thicker lines and some labels, it wouldn't be half bad. Kaldari 15:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

It's an SVG, presumably thickening the lines would not be too hard? I wasn't able to tell what things corresponded to what though. That might be a challenge to whoever were to try to add label lines/numbers. BTW what was wrong with the second one other than it being monochromatic? Knowing what is bad about these would help drive improvement. ++Lar: t/c 16:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

The second illustration would be fine if Euglena was a character in South Park. And I think the first one is from the Simpsons actually. Kaldari 01:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

lol. That's a good way to put it. :-) Rocket000 19:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Maps

• w:Grand Canal (China) and w:Great Wall
• w:Ottoman Empire and w:Subdivisions of the Ottoman Empire
• w:Hundred Years' War
• w:List of sovereign states and the "List of sovereign states in ----" articles, especially in ancient times: this would be amazing
• Many of the w:Crusades articles
• Amazon, Nile, other major rivers
• Better map of home regions of w:Taiwanese aborigines
• All sorts of w:history of Ireland article: w:Early Christian Ireland, w:Early Medieval Ireland 800–1166, w:Early history of Ireland, etc.
• Oceans - commons:Indian Ocean, commons:Arctic Ocean, commons:Atlantic Ocean, commons:Pacific Ocean
• w:Red Sea - Image:Red Sea.png is the best we have now, but it's not very detailed
• w:Reconquista - Image:Spanish reconquista.gif is small and in German only
• w:Indian Wars - would be great to have an overview map
• w:Japanese Canadian internment - maps of camps, significant places, etc.
• w:Hudson Bay - current best map, Image:Hudsonbay.png is pretty small and not detailed
• commons:Jerusalem - many images and some lovely old maps (particularly of the Old City) but none of modern Jerusalem (same for w:Tel Aviv)
• University campus maps - incredibly useful, often can be replicated based off information online, but rarely found on wiki - see, for example, w:Category:University of Michigan campus, in which more than two dozen articles could be improved with a simple map

Thanks! ----Neutrality 07:46, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK, this project is not for maps. Sad but with such as small budget, you have to be restrictive anyway. For the Red Sea, User:Sting is working on it so the result should be nothing less than amazing :-) le Korrigan →bla 10:25, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

For map help:

commons:Category:Maps#Resources

commons:Category:Commons maps

en:Category:Wikipedia maps

For Jerusalem maps, and resource links for more:

commons:Category:Maps of Jerusalem --Timeshifter 12:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

super battle ship yamato class

it needs pictures so does the battleship yamato — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.250.0.254 (talk) 15:02, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I believe he referring to the Yamato class battleship and Japanese battleship Yamato. Maybe one for the class of ships, but I don't think we should request illustrations for individual ships. Rocket000 03:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I think he's actually referring to the Super Yamato class, it would be very helpful to have an illustration of the ship's design. Parsecboy 18:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Hm, I have created a line drawing of IJN Musashi, Yamato class, last month. Maybe it serves the purpose. Otherwise formulate your request more precise please.Alexpl 12:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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w:Cue sports (or rather, various articles thereunder)

• Creation: The cue sports articles, especially on carom games, are mostly either imageless or have generic and often inappropriate images (e.g. of historical, extinct games, or of antique tables)
• commons:Category:Billiards has various images, a number of which I've created myself, but I only have a pool table and related equipment, not a carom table.
• The significance is self-evident; the articles are typical Wikipedia articles on notable topics, and need illustrations. The main w:Cue sports article links to most of the more specific (non-bio) articles under the topic's rubric; see also w:Category:Cue sports. Many bio articles in this topic are also imageless for the obvious reason that it's hard to obtain photos of notable, modern people that are not subject to copyright; see w:Category:Cue sports players for the main category, though there is also w:Category:Cue sports non-player personalities which has a few referees, announcers, etc.
• — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 09:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I don't think illustrations of people are a good idea (I'm sure you could use en.WP's fair-use clause if you can't find any free photos of players). I'm not sure what a carom table is, but it seems we have this area pretty well covered. We have Image:Pool effects.svg, Image:How to place the cue on white ball to make effect at billard.svg, Image:Five-pins table layout.gif, Image:Rack 8-pool.svg and Image:Cue parts.jpg (thanks to you :) along with some specific shot layouts. [Edit: I looked up carrom tables, and it does look like we could use a nice illustration.] Rocket000 03:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I have a carrom table and could do you some better photographs (closeups?) if you tell me what you'd like. Please contact me on Commons. -- --MichaelMaggs 23:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Some brainstorming

Basic explanation or illustration of how this example products work; Computer parts (cpu, motherboard, memory), air conditioners, car components (transmission, etc.) various city electrical grid components, various consuction techniques for buildings, the phone network, all the variety of machine that convert/amplify/concentrate energy, how basic cosmic object operate such as stars or events like supernovas, how stainless steel and other important products are made, explanation of the operation of any factory/plant (example: sewer treatment), how various materials get reinforced or how extra strong material are constructed and so forth.

Just some brainstorming if you guys are looking for ideas. Thank you and hope the above was useful. 76.10.142.66 16:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for those suggestions! I would also like to see more computer/electronics-related diagrams. Right now we have a very basic, but well-done, computer one (Image:Personal computer, exploded 4.svg), a diagram of a joystick (Image:Joyopis.svg), and another nice one about floppy discs (Image:Floppy disk internal diagram.svg). Looking through my old PC repair text book, I recall finding the motherboard layout image very useful. Something like w:Image:ASRock K7VT4A Pro Mainboard Labeled English.png but a little clearer and more generic. w:Image:Motherboard diagram.svg is useful (if it even renders correctly) but not what I'm looking for (here's a PNG). One of each of the major form factors would be nice (AT, ATX, and BTX). Comparison drawings could easily be made. For some other components, we have nothing. Like for power supply. (I remember being angry with Wikipedia because I couldn't find any wiring diagrams when I was taking an on-line exam ;) Now they have wikitables to illustrate this, but it could really use an illustration.) All of these would be great not just for WP but for Wikibooks as well (troubleshooting and what not). Of course, your other suggestions are great too, this just happens to be an interest of mine. :) Rocket000 02:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

w:Fermentation (wine)

• Creation of a diagram showing the chemical process of fermentation, more specifically the process outlined in the third paragraph of the "Process" section. This relates to the information in the w:Glycolysis and w:Ethanol fermentation but we are looking for a more simple diagram relating to this particular winemaking process.
• Copyright examples: Looking for a little bit of an in-between of #1 and #2 with more of a direct tie in to the text of that third paragraph.
• I feel this illustration would be a valuable took in helping to explain the complex chemical reactions involved in making wine.
• Agne 10:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

In general, chemical process can be illustrated with simple chemical structures and arrows (as seen in w:Glycolysis), however, maybe a simpler and less chemistry-oriented diagram could be made (if possible). I'm just not sure what more there is to illustrate other than chemical structures and their transformations. I would like some on cellular respiration in general, though (anaerobic respiration in this case). Rocket000 03:10, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Zoological Illustrations

There's already a lot of zoological illustrations, but, of course, we could use more. Did you have any specific animal(s) in mind? We need more than just a section heading for a request. Please be more specific. Thanks. Rocket000 02:01, 9 January 2008 (UTC) P.S. It looks like I created this section, I did not. Just responding to a section header.. Rocket000 02:54, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Magic Bullet diagram

I would like to propose a diagram illustration in honor of Kwantus (Hume Smith), who passed away. Kwantus created the article about the Single bullet theory on the English Wikipedia. This article, more than any other I can think of, is crying out for a diagram. Here's an example from an outside website. Kaldari 20:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The French WP article on this uses a few illustrations, though they don't look so great. A new illustration would really top of that Featured Article, but only 3 WPs have a page on the subject (according to the interwiki links). IMO, it's notable enough for all of them to eventually have it, but I don't know if there's enough demand for this right now. There's a ton of really basic topics that need illustrations making this somewhat of a lower priority, but who knows? :) Rocket000 01:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I've added a digram to the page. Nothing fancy but does the job. Any comments or improvement and un-welcome but will be listened to.

Friendly Schemes to teach/learn a language

We need such images, especially for Wikiversity and ease free language teaching/learning.

• see this existing project (about 2 hundred images with english meaning)
• see : page about animals, feelings, verbs etc.
• see also : how I used them to teach French

A such graphic project need to create about 200 - 400 images, by one skilled graphist, expressing simply (quickly draw in comic/manga style) the most used words (objects, actions, animals, ...). And this will probably need more than 40 or 80 US$ (1? 2? 4US$ / image ?).

Look at: http://www.public-domain-photos.com/free-cliparts/ – there you find public domain cliparts

With who take contact ?

• Kasuga : commons ja (creator of Wikipe-tan in manga style : )
• LadyofHats : commons - de (best SVG graphist on commons : )
• Niabot : commons - de (Seems a great SVG-Manga graphist : , EN-3
• Yamavu : commons - have made some SVG
• ?? others

I support more Kasuga because his characters are clearly link to Wikimedia and free knowledge share, the manga style (schematic draw) being especialy welcome for this use, but do he work in SVG ? For LadyofHats, I never seen him draw manga characters, but he have amazing skills, and already fully work in SVG format. For Niabot, I don't no if he can talk english, and he just made one amazing SVG-manga.

how to process

The graphist should first show us 5 images, with the english word on the bottom. If the result is great, he get the task. Images should be :

• Format : SVG is strongly encouraged, of course (but PNG may be vertorized by volunteers later);
• Basic : drawing should be basic( avoid to have to many details = parasites). Images of such on this page are really fine, doesn't need more.
• Style : your set of image have to be in the same graphic style (I encourage the Manga style) ;
• Words : be based on the Basic English wordlist (Basic_English_alphabetical_wordlist 200_Picturable_words).
• Background : transparent background need, or white one ;
• English : the english work should be display on the bottom with a clear font ;
• Size : each image should be in a square (ex: size 300px/300px) ;
• Name : Images should have a conventional name, ex with keyword "free" : Free-banana.svg ; Free-tree.svg, etc.
• Advancement : you should keep a wikipage with the list of the words you plan to do, and enlighting those that you already made.

59.115.182.219 07:14, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Supporting this request, I would also add that images don't need to be only for illustrating the meaning of a word, but they can be also very useful if they illustrate a language learning task, for example, a picture with an attractive city map for a learning task about orientation on the streets. Other pictures which can be very useful for vocabulary or writing learning are drawings with lots of small details. The details should be connected in some way, to make a tematic unity. The images should always be interesting or funny, to make the learning experience more attractive. Sorry, they were just some suggestions. --Javier Carro 16:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if they should always be funny. This might be off-putting for adult learners. Arthena 18:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Javier Carro, for children and adults as well, images should be : funny and clear. After what I encourage to avoid too lots of small details, which are semantic parasites. Images of such on this page are really fine, doesn't need more. 210.203.61.15 18:12, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, images with details aren't necessarily "semantic parasites", for example: an image of a person siting on a bench, beside a child playing with a dog, in front of a tree, having behind a lake; is very useful for practising prepositions. Language learning with pictures isn't limited to learn the names of basic objects. You are referring to basic level LL. Furthermore, visual diagrams are also very useful and efficient for vocabulary learning if the learner is interested on a particular field. --Javier Carro 09:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

yes, but thes images should not display 3 dogs, all differents, with 3 colors each, with differents eyes, 4 tree on the backgrounds, a beautiful sea, somes birds, and a road with 2 cars : this is useless. The image should display : a child(Subject) + behind (the word) + something (a basic context). No more. 210.203.61.15 12:33, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

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We can now ask both LadyofHats and Kasuga to make 5 try with :

_ apple ; cat ; swimming ; behind of ; library ;

This encouraged to be in SVG, but If Kasuga make a great job in PNG, with easy colors effects, that's will be easely vectorizable. 210.203.61.15 08:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

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pfctdayelise Need here

Hello pfctdayelise, can you propose a "price by image" ? I think that such basic images don't need 25US$ each, especially when the request is about one hundred to 6 hundred images, depending on what the graphist will be able to make. I encourage a rate about 4US$ each => 100 = 400US$. But, according to the fact that few graphist are attrackted by this Greenspun project, it may be need to up it.

What price can you confirm your are able to paid before to let Kasuga or LadyofHats involve themselves ?

210.203.61.15 09:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

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Niabot says he is capable of the english language at an advanced level (EN-3). Have you contacted this person already? I for my part also uploaded some of my work on Commons, also doing vector works from time to time. --Yamavu 11:03, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

2 magnifying glass diagrams.

See User:Erl's request at the Magnifying glass talk page. -- Jeandré, 2008-01-18t09:17z

Brakes

Drum brake

We do not seem to have any diagram of a drum brake, which is a fundamentally important piece of mechanics. Several excellent commercial illustration are on the web. Kaldari 19:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Disc brake

Used in most modern automobiles. We have these three very basic unlabeled diagrams of how a disc brake brakes, but no diagram of the brake itself with components labeled. Here are some diagrams on the web. Kaldari 19:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Master cylinder

While we're at it, we could use a diagram of a master cylinder as well. Here are some nice commercial diagrams. (Those are all dual/tandem master cylinders, BTW, which is the most common type found in automobiles.) Kaldari 19:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Ancient seige engines

It would be great to have some free drawings of ancient artillery and seige engines for wikipedia. These were the ones I was thinking of:

• Mangonel — somewhat akin to the one here, but lifesize obviously
• Onager — like this one (An onager has a sling at the end, a mangonel has a bucket)
• Ballista — something like this one
• Trebuchet — based on this
• Battering ram — I'd like two different images for this one, one of the classic "Guys carrying a big log" version and one similar to this
• Siege tower — a bit like the one shown this in this pic

thanks.--Phoenix-wiki 21:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Non-optical telescopes

Gamma-ray telescope

The articles on Gamma-ray astronomy have no diagrams. How about a diagram of a gamma-ray telescope, perhaps similar to one of these fine illustrations? (Yes, I know the NASA one is freely usable, but unfortunately, it's also the crappiest of the examples.) Kaldari 23:17, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

X-ray telescope

Ditto for X-ray astronomy. Here are some examples of commercial illustrations. (As usual, the NASA illustration is the crappiest.) Kaldari 23:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Infrared telescope

Ditto for Infrared astronomy. Infrared telescopes aren't really that unique technologically, so I would say this one is lower priority than the others. Here are some examples of commercial illustrations. (These are mostly based on the Spitzer Space Telescope.) Kaldari 23:46, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Canal Lock

• Creation As far as I can tell there's no good animation or sequence of images showing how a canal lock works.
• Images we have: these w:en:Image:Canallock.png, Image:How the Chittenden Locks work.jpg, Image:Canal-sequence.jpg diagrams which are not very clear and a huge number of photos of various bits of canal. Animations elsewhere 1, 2, 3, 4
• I would have thought this was a fairly basic transport topic for an encyclopedia to cover so we should try to do it well.
• JMiall 18:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Animation(s) of electron transitions for luminescence and phosphorescence

• Creation : An educational animation, explaining what an electron transition is in a complex, how it works, why you need a photon to have a transition and why luminescence and phosphorescence occur (for the latter also forbidden transitions will have to be included). It could consist of a very long explaining animation, or maybe several shorter ones, all explaining one aspect.
• Several images with examples but no animations of this type as far as I can find them.
• Luminescence and Phosphorescence is a hard but important physics / chemical occurrence, and is hard to understand without additional illustrative material. It might be relevant for several wikibooks, including books about physics, chemistry and explanations about the fundamentals of quantum mechanics, but also very much on subjects in Wikipedia.
• Effeietsanders 21:41, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

w:Sacrococcygeal teratoma

• Adaption: Adapt the widely published illustration of the 4 Altman types of sacrococcgyeal teratoma
• small image found after quick search. Lycaon 08:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
• The Altman types have ramifications for diagnosis, prenatal and perinatal management, and surgical treatment of this kind of tumor. Also, an illustration is less scary and more informative than a photo or radiology image.
• 66.167.135.215 17:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Architectural Elements

• Creation: Illustrate various architectural elements like a parapet gable, triclinium, insulae, dog-leg stairs and balcony to be used on pages in w:Category:Architectural elements and w:Architectural engineering.
• Examples: Wikipedia page on Trench warfare shows Trench construction diagram 1914; parapet in trench from educational text on warfare; Carryduff Designs on parapet walls; Tour of stairs from Universal Housing Design booklet at Queensland Government site; insulae from Ancient Town-Planning, by F. Haverfield on Gutenberg.org; CHAP 1... L'architecture gréco-romaine de l'époque classique à l'empire from Sciences auxiliaires de l'antiquité on www.cliohist.net; Roman Triclinium or Dining Room; Triclinium from The Free Dictionary; Estate Gate from Imagination in Metals
• Purpose: Educational texts on architecture are filled with high-quality diagrams. Many Wikipedia pages use photographs to illustrate architectural elements. However, most photographs on these topics tend to obscure instead of illuminating concept.
• DutchTreat 15:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikisource has at least one book with illustrations in that field: Dictionary of French Architecture from 11th to 16th Century has not only hundreds of illustrations, they are also well-ordered on commons:Category:Viollet-le-Duc. A lot of them although are too specific to be usefull as generalizations, but it could be a further point of reference. --84.190.5.188 00:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

w:Sailing

• Creation: Illustrate basic sailing techniques, w:points of sail and knots (like the w:Reef knot, w:Stopper knots).
• Examples: sheet bend; knot from DIXON KEMP, Manual of Yacht and Boat Sailing and Architecture (11th and final edition, 1913); Physics of Sailing
• Purpose: Sailing and yachting topics are best understood from diagrams. A picture of the process over time captures the movement of the boat and sail against the wind. Also, knots made with rope are easiest seen as a diagram.
• DutchTreat 15:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

w:Richter Scale

• Creation: Diagram the Richter magnitude scale.
• Examples: Richter Scale @ PrivateLine.com; Richter Scale @ Dipteris.unige.it
• Purpose: This earthquake scale is of interest in science education and used in stories from natural disasters. Frequently the Richter Scale index appears in mainstream news stories describing any earthquake which results in casualties. [8] [9]
• DutchTreat 16:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Surely a diagram relating to the absolute magnitude scale would be of more use, as it is of use for describing earthquakes of all magnitudes (not just <~6.8)? Verisimilus T 19:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I would certainly support a diagram of the w:Moment magnitude scale or the Richter Scale. The current Wikipedia page for the moment magnitude scale is mostly a mathematical definition. It clearly could benefit from a diagram. DutchTreat 19:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Cystic fibrosis

• creation of diagram illustrating different types of mutations (stop codon, degradation in endoplasmatic reticulum, decreased conductance, ...)
• No free alternative.
• "Cystic fibrosis is one of the most common life-shortening, childhood-onset inherited diseases. In the United States, 1 in 3900 children are born with CF. One in twenty-two people of European descent carry one gene for CF, making it the most common genetic disease in these populations."

• Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Abdominal aortic aneurysm

• creation of diagram illustrating a typical infrarenal aortic aneurysm
• No free alternative.
• In the U.S., the incidence of AAA is 2-4% in the adult population. An abdominal aortic aneurysm occurs most commonly in older individuals (between 65 and 75), and more in men and smokers. The most important complication of an abdominal aortic aneurysm is rupture, which is most often a fatal event.

• Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Ediacara biota

• Creation: This featured article currently lacks a suitable leading image. An image depicting an Ediacaran community would greatly enhance the article and make it more accessible. The current image is horrendously out of date and at odds with the current interpretation of the biota.
• I have only seen up-to-date images in the scientific literature; the most recent suitable paper is provided. E-mail me if you need me to send PDFs. Many further articles concern themselves with one specific organism, and I'm not aware of a recent depiction of the full ecosystem.
  • Retallack, G.J. (2007). "Growth, decay and burial compaction of Dickinsonia, an iconic Ediacaran fossil" (PDF). Alcheringa: An Australasian Journal of Palaeontology 31 (3): 232. 
• The Ediacara biota were the first organisms to attain large size and relative complexity. Appearing in the fossil record just before animal fossils became common in the Cambrian explosion, the organisms remain something of a mystery. They may belong to an extinct kingdom - a "failed experiment" in life - or be the predecessors of the animal groups we are familiar with today.
• Verisimilus T 20:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Military Campaigns

• Creation: diagrams to describe military campaigns of great historical value. Overlay on a geographical map the places, time frames and people of different wars.

100 Years' War -> example 100 Years War from ParadoxPlace.com;

w:Ottoman casualties of World War I -> example w:World War II casualties

w:Mongol invasions of Japan -> example Mongols maps from Emory.edu; map from rs143 @ UPenn

• DutchTreat 19:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

3D modelling of w:Poverty Point

On the German Wikipedia we are looking right now into the possibilities to create a 3D model of the archaeological site w:Poverty Point in Louisiana, USA. As a state historic site, with archaeologists from several universities working there, most existing images and illustrations are unfree (unlike other sites that are administrated by the National Park Service where all works by federal employees are in the public domain). Possible uses of the model would be all kinds of looks into the site as it was some 3500 years ago - and ultimately the option to create an animated flight over the site and its spectacular location on a small bluff over the flood plane of the Mississippi River basin. See: de:Wikipedia:Grafikwerkstatt/Grafikwünsche#Poverty_Point and the already existing schematic map and the tentative draft. --h-stt !? 06:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

This looks really interesting. Unfortunately I don't read German. This looks like it might be a more complex than average request -- do you think that is true? Also, is there someone already interested on working on it? It would be great if someone could summarise the discussion...! thanks --pfctdayelise 15:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Existing requests

en:Category:Wikipedia requested diagram images has hundreds of existing diagram requests. Some of those might be worthy for inclusion in this list, and some of the requests here might be added to the corresponding Wikipedia article with the {{reqdiagram}} tag. -- Beland 20:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that's mega useful. How did I not think of that before??! Thanks so much. pfctdayelise 15:04, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Improve spinal cord illustrations

The illustrations associated with the spinal cord [10] enWikipedia article could use reworking. Specifically, the existing illustration of the anterolateral (ALS) system should be redone (the one labeled "Somatosensory tracts"), along with the spinal cord development image (labeled "Spinal Cord Development of the Alar and Basal Plates").

137.54.14.179 20:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Hearing science diagrams

• Creation (mostly): We need clean svg diagrams for hearing science topics. Right now we're predominantly using Gray's plates which is very clearly a problem!
• I have a bunch of diagrams, graphs etc for which I need free alternatives. The graphs are probably easier to create since they're generally pretty simple. As well, I can get micrographs for which a diagram is needed so lessen the burden on any illustrator who wants to take this on.
  • Cross-section of the cochlea (more detail than File:Cochlea-crosssection.png is needed — in particular, the reticular lamina is missing!)
    • Detailed anatomy of the Organ of Corti
  • Schematic anatomy of the middle and inner ears (separate diagrams)
  • Schematic diagram of the cochlea showing the helicotrema, and basilar membrane movement at varying frequencies, including complex sounds.
  • Schematic diagram of the olivocochlear bundles and their synaptic connections at the cochlea
  • Stiffness gradient of the basilar membrane and showing the rows of hair cells - physical and schematic
  • Schematic diagram of the basilar membrane showing inner and outer hair cells and a representative sample of spiral gangilia
    • Alternate versions showing Bill Rhode's experiment using Mössbauer spectroscopy, and a few others
  • Cutaway schematic of the cochlea with the modiolus labelled
  • Contractile properties of the outer hair cells
  • Frequency tuning curves, audiograms, psychoacoustic tuning curves and so on
  • Kemp echoes/otoacoustic emissions (active & passive)
• Without these (and more), b:Sensory Neuroscience: Hearing and speech will not be readable.

I'm of course happy to provide assistance with research, crappy hand-drawn diagrams to work from, my non-free diagrams and more detailed specifications as required. Thanks  — Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 23:41, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

w:Geothermal heat pump

• Creation: illustrations of the process flow of geothermal heat pumps, showing closed horizontal, closed vertical, open, and direct exchange loops, as well as building heat exchange and hot water pre-heat.
• Something similar to [11] [12] [13] [14] and the first couple of pages of [15]
• Most articles on geothermal heat pumps start with the same 3 or 4 images, because it is so much easier to follow descriptions with reference to these diagrams. This article is likely to have growing importance among energy articles in the coming years. This idea seems to fit perfectly the first aim of this project: "Facilitate the creation of diagrams that would otherwise be unlikely to receive attention due to their topic or complexity"
• Ytrottier 18:11, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Neuroanatomy of Pain

Creation Pain gets 2,000 hits a day and needs an illustration of the pathway from injury to brain. I can provide all necessary information and supporting images. Anthony 18:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Concept/w:Biogeochemical cycle

• Creation : Make a standard view of the earth, onto which the different biogeochemical cycles could be added.
• File:Oxygen_Cycle.jpg, File:Carbon_cycle-cute_diagram.svg, File:Water_cycle.png, File:Nitrogen_Cycle.jpg and w:File:Phoscycle-EPA.jpg (the Sulfur cycle is missing one altogether.
• Biogeochemical cycles are absolutely critical in understanding how the world functions. The carbon and nitrogen cycle are particularly significant today and the diagrams currently illustrating them are inadequate (the carbon one is ok but the nitrogen one and the others are shockingly bad!). This would be an excellent source to use for the nitrogen cycle. I have thought about trying myself but have neither the time nor the skills to do so unfortunately. If someone takes up this request I would be more than happy to help find sources to use in the diagrams. Please drop me a note on w:User talk:Smartse if you need me as I probably won't be checking this often.
• Smartse 23:23, 19 February 2010 (UTC)