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Language fallback for Lzh (Zh-classical) should be Zh_hant
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Feb 1 2016, 8:07 AM
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Please set messages for Lzh fall back to Zh_hant instead of English.

Discussion: https://zh-classical.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E6%9C%83%E9%A4%A8#.E7.B3.BB.E7.B5.B1.E6.B6.88.E6.81.AF.E5.9B.9E.E8.90.BD

See also: T126944: Wikibase LanguageFallbackChainFactoryTest makes assumptions on MediaWiki's language fallback chains

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Set fallback language for lzh to zh-hantmediawiki/coremaster+2 -0
Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzhmediawiki/coremaster+88 -86
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Lantern created this task.Feb 1 2016, 8:07 AM
Lantern raised the priority of this task from to Medium.
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Lantern added projects: I18n, MediaWiki-Internationalization.
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Aklapper renamed this task from Lzh (Zh-classical) should fall back to Zh_hant to Language fallback for Lzh (Zh-classical) should be Zh_hant.Feb 1 2016, 8:46 AM
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MarcoAurelio claimed this task.Feb 1 2016, 11:44 AM
MarcoAurelio added a project: Community-consensus-needed.

As far as I can see, there's no real discussion there, or am I mistaken?

Lantern subscribed.EditedFeb 2 2016, 3:36 AM

You are right. This wiki has few people, and many messages are left untranslated, which makes viewers confused.

In 2014 there was a same proposal, but they obviously didn't know how to report the bug.

MarcoAurelio added subscribers: siebrand, Nikerabbit.Feb 2 2016, 6:58 PM

Well, it looks like a reasonable request to me after all, that a Chinese wiki fallback missing messages to another Chinese dialect, so I'm taking this. Just a question, do you want fallback for zh or zh-hans, zh-hant, etc. Sorry for my ignorance, but I get lost with the so many ways to speak Chinese. I'd say that we should also fallback to a language that has all or the vast majority of messages translated too. Ping to @siebrand and @Nikerabbit for their opinions.

Lantern added a comment.EditedFeb 3 2016, 2:50 AM

Comparing file sizes in mediawiki/languages/i18n/, zh-hans and zh-hant have most messages. zh is an empty shell combined by them, and others like zh-hk zh-sg zh-tw are regional words.
Both lzh and zh-hant use traditional Chinese characters, so zh-hant only seems enough.

Liuxinyu970226 subscribed.Feb 3 2016, 5:11 AM

BTW, should we do samething for Cantonese (yue)? (If someone says OK then please let him to create another task).

gerritbot subscribed.Feb 3 2016, 6:54 PM

Change 268189 had a related patch set uploaded (by MarcoAurelio):
Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/268189

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Feb 3 2016, 6:54 PM
MarcoAurelio removed a project: Community-consensus-needed.Feb 6 2016, 11:15 PM
hashar mentioned this in T126944: Wikibase LanguageFallbackChainFactoryTest makes assumptions on MediaWiki's language fallback chains.Feb 16 2016, 8:49 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Feb 22 2016, 5:12 PM

Change 268189 abandoned by MarcoAurelio:
Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh

Reason:
Re-doing from the start.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/268189

gerritbot added a comment.Feb 22 2016, 5:17 PM

Change 272499 had a related patch set uploaded (by MarcoAurelio):
Setting fallback configuration for lzh to zh-hant

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272499

MarcoAurelio updated the task description. (Show Details)Feb 24 2016, 4:04 PM
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MarcoAurelio removed MarcoAurelio as the assignee of this task.Feb 29 2016, 5:24 PM

Since I can't resolve this task myself as it depends on some Wikibase stuff that is not being resolved.

gerritbot added a comment.Apr 9 2016, 10:09 AM

Change 272499 abandoned by MarcoAurelio:
Set fallback for lzh to zh-hant

Reason:
It seems there's no interest in getting the test error fixed anytime soon, thus preventing this patch to me merged, wich now even needs manual rebase.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272499

MarcoAurelio removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Apr 9 2016, 10:09 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Apr 11 2016, 1:56 PM

Change 272499 restored by MarcoAurelio:
Set fallback for lzh to zh-hant

Reason:
Per T126944#2194839

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272499

MarcoAurelio closed this task as Resolved by committing rMWb31aa179bd3d: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh.Apr 28 2016, 3:01 AM
MarcoAurelio added a commit: rMWb31aa179bd3d: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh.
MarcoAurelio added a commit: rMWbe077c2ccfae: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh.
MarcoAurelio added a commit: rMW431a87347e96: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh.
MarcoAurelio added a commit: rMW8257e824a95a: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh.
MarcoAurelio added a commit: rMWbe7231b3d3b7: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh.
Aklapper reopened this task as Open.Apr 28 2016, 3:03 PM
Liuxinyu970226 added a subscriber: shinjiman.Jul 4 2016, 3:10 AM
Nikerabbit moved this task from Backlog to Language changes on the MediaWiki-Internationalization board.Jul 14 2016, 7:45 AM
MarcoAurelio changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Jul 21 2016, 9:28 AM

We can't move until T126944 it seems, otherwise my patch will continue to fail. Although I'm exploring @siebrand option of adding a fake "depends on" commit message to get this unlocked. I'm not well versed at that so I hope you understand my reticence to that.

Liuxinyu970226 awarded a token.Aug 2 2016, 11:25 PM
MarcoAurelio changed the task status from Stalled to Open.Aug 24 2016, 3:05 PM
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It seems that the Wikibase issues are now fixed and the patch is passing jenkins-tests, so maybe we can merge the mediawiki/core patch now and get this resolved?

hoo closed subtask T126944: Wikibase LanguageFallbackChainFactoryTest makes assumptions on MediaWiki's language fallback chains as Resolved.Aug 24 2016, 3:43 PM
MarcoAurelio added a project: Patch-For-Review.Sep 15 2016, 11:41 AM
MarcoAurelio removed commits: rMWbe7231b3d3b7: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh, rMW8257e824a95a: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh, rMWbe077c2ccfae: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh, rMW431a87347e96: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh, rMWb31aa179bd3d: Setting fallback to zh-hans for lzh.
gerritbot added a comment.Sep 15 2016, 1:02 PM

Change 272499 merged by jenkins-bot:
Set fallback language for lzh to zh-hant

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/272499

ReleaseTaggerBot added projects: MW-1.28-release-notes, MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-09-20_(1.28.0-wmf.20)).Sep 15 2016, 2:00 PM
MarcoAurelio closed this task as Resolved.Sep 17 2016, 10:05 AM

Patch is merged. I'll be live on the wiki on the next mediawiki train.

MarcoAurelio removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Sep 17 2016, 10:06 AM
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MarcoAurelio moved this task from unsorted/backlog to cabinet on the User-MarcoAurelio board.Jan 6 2018, 12:06 PM
Winston_Sung subscribed.EditedJan 15 2022, 11:01 AM

BTW, should we do samething for Cantonese (yue)? (If someone says OK then please let him to create another task).

Will be covered by T296188 .

Winston_Sung added a parent task: T296188: Clean up, merge, update zh/zh-* translations and update zh-related language fallback chains in mediawiki/core.Jan 15 2022, 11:02 AM

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/703560/65

Winston_Sung reopened subtask T126944: Wikibase LanguageFallbackChainFactoryTest makes assumptions on MediaWiki's language fallback chains as In Progress.Jan 15 2022, 12:05 PM
Winston_Sung closed subtask T126944: Wikibase LanguageFallbackChainFactoryTest makes assumptions on MediaWiki's language fallback chains as Resolved.Jan 18 2022, 7:19 AM
Winston_Sung added a comment.Jun 2 2022, 4:50 AM

BTW, should we do samething for Cantonese (yue)? (If someone says OK then please let him to create another task).

Done within:

[mediawiki/core@master] Rearrange zh-related language fallback chain

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/703560

Winston_Sung mentioned this in T296188: Clean up, merge, update zh/zh-* translations and update zh-related language fallback chains in mediawiki/core.Jun 15 2022, 5:36 AM
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