I'm not sure what's the request here. While it's technically possible to enable VE by default on those wikis, deciding about that is not my call.

Putting the wikis into dark mode is doable even without VE, but the features can't be pushed to newcomers without newcomers having VE (as otherwise they wouldn't be useful -- guidance etc. expects VE to be used).

In theory, automatically enabling the beta feature for new accounts is also possible, but that's a hack that we decided to not take on when we were discussing zhwiki deployment.

@Trizek-WMF Could you please clarify what do you want me to work on here?

@Urbanecm_WMF, you can start the configuration, except for the 3 wikis I mentioned. I'll check with the VE team about them first, and return back to you when a decision would have been taken.

In T290582#7340598, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

@Urbanecm_WMF, you can start the configuration, except for the 3 wikis I mentioned. I'll check with the VE team about them first, and return back to you when a decision would have been taken.

So just to make sure, you're asking me to enable Growth features on the remaining 210 Wikipedias, right?

For my future self, posting how a list of wikis can be easily generated:

[urbanecm@mwmaint2002 ~]$ expanddblist 'wikipedia - closed - private - visualeditor-nondefault - growthexperiments' | wc -l
210
[urbanecm@mwmaint2002 ~]$

In T290582#7341423, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

In T290582#7340598, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

@Urbanecm_WMF, you can start the configuration, except for the 3 wikis I mentioned. I'll check with the VE team about them first, and return back to you when a decision would have been taken.

So just to make sure, you're asking me to enable Growth features on the remaining 210 Wikipedias, right?

All remaining Wikipedias, except:

• gan Gan
• iu Inuktitut
• tg Tajik
• at the deployment board:
  • the ones waiting for community input (it, sh)
  • the ones stalled (zh, kk)

Got it. Moving to sprint then :).

Change 720074 had a related patch set uploaded (by Urbanecm; author: Urbanecm):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Deploy Growth features in dark modes to ~200 wikis

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/720074

Change 720074 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Deploy Growth features in dark modes to ~200 wikis

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/720074

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-09-09T18:11:11Z] <urbanecm> Run extensions/WikimediaMaintenance/createExtensionTables.php growthexperiments for wikis in P17258 (T290582)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-09-09T18:12:37Z] <urbanecm> [urbanecm@mwmaint2002 /srv/mediawiki/php]$ foreachwikiindblist growthexperiments extensions/GrowthExperiments/maintenance/initWikiConfig.php --phab=T290582 | tee ~/initwikiconfig.out # T290582

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-09-09T18:20:17Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> sync-file aborted: 6af38d951f0ef9af369e2172c175628dc6e9a281: Deploy Growth features in dark modes to ~200 wikis (T290582) (duration: 00m 05s)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-09-09T18:21:20Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized dblists/growthexperiments.dblist: 6af38d951f0ef9af369e2172c175628dc6e9a281: Deploy Growth features in dark modes to ~200 wikis (T290582; 1/3) (duration: 00m 58s)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-09-09T18:22:37Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/config/: 6af38d951f0ef9af369e2172c175628dc6e9a281: Deploy Growth features in dark modes to ~200 wikis (T290582; 2/3) (duration: 01m 01s)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-09-09T18:24:25Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 6af38d951f0ef9af369e2172c175628dc6e9a281: Deploy Growth features in dark modes to ~200 wikis (T290582; 3/3) (duration: 00m 57s)

@Trizek-WMF This was done. As last time, I generated a list of all Growth wikis along with task numbers, which can be accessed at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LxEf7jYfY0D2XfLX-dWByoXCp4xSJjL7wVSmULT62H4/edit#gid=0.

Let me know if you need anything else here.

Change 724140 had a related patch set uploaded (by Urbanecm; author: Urbanecm):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Growth: Promote 208 wikis out of dark mode

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/724140

Change 724140 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Growth: Promote 208 wikis out of dark mode

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/724140

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-09-27T18:10:24Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 2cb6f47ba4b739fa7bc8a2036b473c014ff69c8b: Growth: Promote 208 wikis out of dark mode (T290582) (duration: 00m 56s)

This just happened.

Checked some wikis:

• https://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A0t%C3%A0k%C3%AC:NewcomerTasksInfo has only "Expand short article"

• https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espesyal:NewcomerTasksInfo has a different layout- the table is centered:

• https://cr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewcomerTasksInfo has "No data available". The Special:Homepage displays a blank space for SE module.

Moving to Test in Production|Watching for monitoring and addressing this comment above.

In T290582#7389999, @Etonkovidova wrote:

Checked some wikis:

• https://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A0t%C3%A0k%C3%AC:NewcomerTasksInfo has only "Expand short article"

• https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espesyal:NewcomerTasksInfo has a different layout- the table is centered:

• https://cr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewcomerTasksInfo has "No data available". The Special:Homepage displays a blank space for SE module.

I just checked, and that's because GrowthExperiments wasn't able to figure out any templates. The blank space will be resolved automagically via T273837: When wgGEHomepageSuggestedEditsEnabled is false, homepage has a big blank space, once expected behavior is specified there.

Moving to Test in Production|Watching for monitoring and addressing this comment above.