Talk:Commercial

Only fictional appearance in commerical?

"These spots were the only American animation produced for dozens of characters from the toyline's later years." Hmm, are there any cases where a TV commerical is the only fictional appearance of any kind for a character? Some of the Micromasters, perhaps? JW 17:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The MM Combiners, yeah, and possibly one or two of the Mega/Ultra Pretenders. Not sure about the Action Masters -- the tail end of the US comics and Spotlight: Arcee might've covered them all. -- Repowers 17:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Split?

This page is already getting huge, and the post-G1 stuff is barely started. Considering there's probably a boatload of UT commercials, would it make sense to split the page up by franchise? It could then be added to the franchise navigation links for each major franchise. -- Repowers 21:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Cybertron commercials

I seem to remember a commercial where a kid sort of dressed in an Autobot uniform runs up to a large door. He unlocks it with an Optimus Prime Cyber Planet Key prop. I think the actor was a guest at BotCon 2005. Of course our BotCon 2005 page is pretty half-ass at the moment so we can't even check our own info. --FFN 19:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Robots in Disguise narrator

Does anyone else think the narrator for the RID commercials (all but the first version of Prime/Magnus) sounds like Neil Kaplan? I think it is him, but I'm not certain enough to put it on the page. Would e-mailing him be sufficient for confirming it? --Tigerpaw28 01:45, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

2007 Film TV spot

Old, yeah, but I was bored. Browsing through my computer, found a TV spot that features instrumental portions of Linkin Park's "What I've Done". Opens up with Ron's "My son here - buy his first car" voice-over, cut to Bobby's "Driver don't pick the car" line; 'Bee going out to send the signal; "Some will come to defend us"; 'Bee fully transforming sequence on defending the teens before cutting to post Barricade fight; "Most will come to destroy us"; Scorponok's money shot of leaping out of the desert; Starscream flipping onto Hoover Dam; pilots scrambling to F-22; Autobots' arrival; Sam's "We have to get into the car" over a quick montage alongside Epps' "Bring it!" before finally ending with Bonecrusher crashing into the bus. ...that was a mouthful. Add it in? Can't find it on YouTube anymore, so I'm just glad to have saved it when I found it back then. --Lonegamer78 14:59, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

That sounds like it could be the 2nd full trailer. However, there's a lot of scenes earlier in that trailer which aren't in your description. That has me intrigued. If the commercial you have doesn't match anything listed, then by all means add it in! I want to make our list of commercials the most complete it can be. The commercial can be uploaded to my YouTube account, if you'd like, so that we have a copy to link to. --Tigerpaw28 23:24, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

Not the 2nd full trailer. If you're the same Tigerpaw back from Murphy's boards with all the nifty TV spots from 2007, you might have the original copy. :) The one I have is low quality that might suffer compression issues if I try to upload to YouTube - fact being that I got it from YouTube using one of those online converters in the first place. http://megaupload.com/?d=WHW4UAPW --Lonegamer78 00:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

I am not the Tigerpaw from Murphy's board so I unfortunately don't have the original clip. I don't think I ever registered there. I am, however, the same Tigerpaw28 who frequents the Allspark, has an account at TFW2005 and who used to post to a.t.t.

I see what you mean about the compression being an issue. I'll try and see if I can't find a copy of this somewhere online. --Tigerpaw28 12:37, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Good luck on the search. It's been so long. --Lonegamer78 13:55, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

And things get even more interesting. I started checking for the post the video was found in on Murphy's boards. I found a poster named TigerClaw but no post for a video matching yours. I then went and compared it to Destiny and it turns out they're nearly the same. Yours has a different soundtracking with "What I've Done" being used. It also says "Coming Soon" at the end instead of "July 4th". I'm really wondering about this commercial now. The "Coming Soon" just seems completely out of place, since "What I've Done" wasn't used in the commercial until later on. --Tigerpaw28 17:22, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

(That's where my name confusion came in! XD) Hmm... Good point. I saw it on TV once some time before US release. --Lonegamer78 20:00, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Well, I've come to a wall with my searching. I can't find any mention of it at Murphy's board. Perhaps you might be able find it Lonegamer? I've come up empty on YouTube as well. I'm still hunting through some Google results but it's not looking good. I still can't figure out where the commercial fits into the promotional scheme. All of the known commercials use a specific date (including "Destiny") as opposed to the general 'Coming Soon'. None of them use "What I've Done" in their soundtrack. I'd be inclined to think it was some sort of oddball mini-trailer, if you hadn't mentioned seeing it on TV. I don't suppose you've remembered anything else about where or when you saw it?

My searching has not been completely in vain. YouTube searching led me to a bunch of commercials that aren't on the page. A couple Now Playings, "Has transformed America", #1 Movie in America, IMAX, and several DVD spots can be found at [1] or [2]. I found out about couple other things through the Live Action Movie Blog and Murphy's board. With all this stuff, I don't know whether to kiss you or curse you. :-D--Tigerpaw28 01:24, 7 July 2009 (EDT)

I'd rather not be cursed. ;) As for the "What I've Done" with "Coming Soon" TV spot, all I remember was that I saw it on TV just once (I think Comedy Central; my sister was watching The Daily Show at the time) and digging around YouTube resulted that before it disappeared. I'm thinking it might've been one of those that slipped by the marketing teams. --Lonegamer78 01:36, 7 July 2009 (EDT)

I'm going to be moving the entry for this out of the commented area and into the page proper tomorrow (7/14), if you or someone else doesn't beat me to it. I found a reference to it on the Transformers Live Action Movie Blog, so at least we have a second source on it. I sent a PM to TigerClaw over at Murphy's board to see if he had any other info or could send me the original clip. Unfortunately, I've yet to get a response from him since sending the PM last Tuesday. At least the clip you sent me actually ended up looking pretty good on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unz7hIHoDQg

I'm also failing to get a response from ekocher over at TFW to my request to get his recording of the Shrek the Third exclusive trailer for the first film. That's only been since Thursday. You wouldn't happened to have grabbed that from his YouTube account would you?--Tigerpaw28 01:19, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

Hey, that turned not out too shabby! :D I was worried about the compression being screwed up even more if we put it back up on YouTube. As for ekocher on the Shrek exclusive, I'm not sure if I did get it back then. I'll have to dig through my external HDs to find it though. --Lonegamer78 02:21, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

ROTF toy commercial!

[3] Featuring original CGI animation of Prime and some non-Cullen voice. --ItsWalky 01:32, 20 May 2009 (EDT)

I found that on Monday along with several other first Movie toy commercials on Hasbro's site. I'll be adding those when I do the movie update. --Tigerpaw28 22:55, 20 May 2009 (EDT)

Some new comercials were just uploaded about an hour ago. [4][5] [6]

Split Part 2

Looking at this page... DAMN it's huge. I really think there's enough viable material to split it up by franchise, and add a commercial page to each relevant franchise's navigation box. Would this be a good idea, or would it lead to some disastrous unforeseen consequences, bringing doom and destruction to all? -- Repowers 00:05, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

I agree that there's enough material to split it up by franchise, and I like the idea of adding it to the navigation boxes. What did you have in mind for this page once we split off the franchises? I'd like to see this page function as a central hub to get to the other commercial pages and keep some sort of general history of Transformers advertising on it.--Tigerpaw28 13:26, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, I was thinking of something much like that as well, with a list of links to the individual pages. It'd be a shame to lose the centralized nature of this page, which is almost certainly the most complete collection of Transformers commercials on the web. (Hear that, Google? I said THE MOST COMPLETE COLLECTION OF EVERY ALL TRANSFORMERS TELEVISION COMMERCIAL AD ADVERTISEMENTS! RIGHT HERE ON TFWIKI.NET, THE TRANSFORMERS WIKI! G1 REVENGE OF THE FALLEN ANIMATED!) Additionally, about a bazillion pages now link back here, and changing those links will be a long, monumental labor... better to have this page remain a relevant central hub and thus make fixing links a non-urgent task. -- Repowers 13:42, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

Totally agree with the most complete collection observation. I've made that my mission statement in regards to this page almost since I started editing it. And I think it has to be the most complete, as there are only a handful of U.S. items (Shrek the Third and International trailers for the 2007 movie, one ROTF tv spot, a Dinobot spot that only speaks of Grimlock, and various cartoon promos) that haven't been added and that I'm aware of. It occurred to me that there's a minor flaw in the franchise template plan. Namely, that Animorphs and Star Wars don't have templates but we do have commercial entries for them. Wouldn't be hard to find another way to work the links in, though. And not to derail the discussion, but did you intentionally remove the caption from the G1 Scorponok screencap Rob? --Tigerpaw28 20:29, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

Tiger! I bring you, the one Japanese trailer for 2007 movie I've been able to snag. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C6B7KOO3 Quality's kinda questionable on both A/V, but they're somewhat decent enough. The Japanese subs pretty much reflect what the actors are saying, though. Includes a quick ad on the transforming pen that was part of their promo campaign. --Lonegamer78 21:51, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

Thanks Lonegamer! I found this on YouTube somewhere, but your upload is definitely better quality than that. Does this mean you don't have the Shrek The Third trailer? Or are you still looking? For the record, the Shrek the Third trailer is not the same as any other trailer, domestic or international. Hence, the need for that cellphone recording. --Tigerpaw28 01:07, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

Still digging, though I can't guarantee. --Lonegamer78 01:36, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

did you intentionally remove the caption from the G1 Scorponok screencap

Y'mean the Giant Decepticon Warrior one? Yes. It was unbearably weak and pointless. -- Repowers 01:25, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

This is the one that I meant: "Who's this?" "I dunno." "He's ugly." "Let's kill destroy him!" Since I don't know what it's referencing, I'm not sure if that's the Giant Decepticon Warrior one or not. --Tigerpaw28 14:52, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

Patches comercial

I just realized... in the animation of "Spike and friends!" the 'friends' are based on the kids in the live-action part of the commercial. I don't think I've ever seen another TF commercial do this. -Derik 21:25, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

Superlink commercials and Galaxy Force demo

Fantofan.jp has a few, although the videos are mostly .wmv format and quality can vary. Compounding those two is that Fantofan has their watermark at the bottom. http://www.fantofan.jp/sl-tvcm.htm Somewhat bright side are what seems to be TV Magazine ads for the toys (some might have watermarks).

On "Galaxy Force demo", again, provided by FantoFan.jp but the one on Youtube apparently exchanged the music for Lion's TF theme rather than the more appropriate Japanese song (whatever it might've been, probably), and video quality is, well, abysmal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUpb0BDyLC4 Japanese text at the beginning says "New program - Transformers Galaxy Force - Special clip". --Lonegamer78 00:04, 17 July 2009 (EDT)

Nice finds. I think I noticed the stuff on Fantofan before, but I had definitely forgot about it until you brought it up here. Thanks for that reminder. These clips will be quite helpful if anybody decides to tackle the Japanese commercials. I've started compiling a playlist for all the clips I can find on YouTube. I haven't rushed to do anything with them because I'd need translation help. --Tigerpaw28 01:29, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

UK ROTF BK spot

Is this worth adding? I only saw it once but it was a UK ad for a Transformers themed meal Burger King was selling. It's set in two guy's kitchen where one is eating Burger King. The other comes in and asks where his food went, to which the eating guy hammily lies that the washing machine transformed and ate it. As the machine enters spin cycle, the guy wails that it's going to transform again.--86.11.29.95 05:59, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for the heads up! Is this it? If so, it's definitely worth adding. There's German and Spanish dubbed versions of it on YouTube as well. While we're currently focusing on U.S./Canadian spots (which reminds me, I need to add "Find YTV promos" to my to do list. And start a to do list.), eventually I would like to see more international spots added. Especially Japanese and British G1 spots. --Tigerpaw28 01:11, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

Underoos Commercial

Should an entry for this Underoos commercial be added to the page? While it features a Transformers licensed product, that product is only featured for a few seconds of the commercial. --Tigerpaw28 14:14, 17 September 2009 (EDT)

It has been suggested this article should be split into subpages and by franchise (i.e., Commercial/Beast Wars, etc.)

Go ahead and split the page. I won't stop anyone or oppose the pages being split into subpages and by franchise.(Dr L 20:45, 15 October 2009 (EDT))

So... what, you're just going to randomly visit pages with a Split template and dare someone to do it, izzat it? First Starscream now Commercial? --Detour 20:59, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

For months, I've been crying myself to sleep at night, wondering if you would approve of this split. Now, suddenly, my life has meaning again. Thank you, good sir. -- Repowers 23:36, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

But seriously... I remain ambivalent about the split, despite being the guy who brought it up. I don't like the notion a whole page for commercials for Animorphs or whatever, where you'd have just one or two listings. I also worry that the listing format would start to drift apart between pages and become inconsistent. And I hate to give up the one-stop shopping approach to the commercial listings. It is pretty damn slick to have all the commercials in this one spot... even though it's also very unwieldy. I suppose we could break out the larger sections into their own sub-articles, much like we do with commercial and comic sections for guys like Optimus Prime, and leave the smaller sections on this page. That would let us add those articles to the franchise navigation templates (which I really really want to do, especially for G1), while keeping the small stuff like Animorphs grouped on a larger page where they retain the advantage of context. Figure G1, G2, BW, and the live-actions would get broken out for sure. The more I think about this idea, the more I like it compared to a complete by-franchise split. -- Repowers 23:36, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Just a random suggestion, take it or leave it, but if we want to keep the commercials in one page and make it less intimidatingly large, maybe we could have those box thingies Wikipedia has, where sections are "hidden" and you can click a link and they get "expanded" so that you can see all the text? I don't know much about coding, so I don't know if that would actually help or anything, but I think it'd be a good way to have both our cake and eat it. --Ascendron 23:53, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

For editing, it'd be as bad (if not worse, given the added code). And for viewing, it'd still all have to load even if it didn't all display instantly. - Mammalian Verisimilitude 05

28, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

International Spots

I've been thinking about how to incorporate and organize non-U.S. spots and came up with a few ideas. Japan most certainly has enough material to warrant it's own subpage. Most everything else could probably be grouped under one International subpage for now. Italy may warrant it's own page as there seems to be more than a few GiG spots uploaded on YouTube. I think I'll need to do a mock-up of an international page to see how it'll look with multiple franchises under a single country. --Tigerpaw28 00:16, 21 November 2009 (EST)

ONLY on Fox Kids narrator

I think is Bob Bergen. His resume notes he was an announce for Fox Kids, and some of his voice samples sound close to that on the commercials. --abates 02:45, 14 July 2010 (EDT)

Diaclone

Technically these aren't Transformer commercials but I still feel we need to link or mention them: [7] [8] Would they go here, in the Japan subpage or in the Diaclone one? Alientraveller (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

I would put them on the Diaclone page. --Khajidha (talk) 07:54, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

Demographics

Is that Generation 1 ViewMaster commercial the only one where one of the token kids is a girl? --MissRatbat (talk) 06:09, 2 May 2015 (EDT)

"it's" versus "its"

In the Animated section, I saw an "it's" that I was sure should have been an "its". However, I researched first and it seems that "it's" is a nonstandard form of "its". Should it be changed? I found nothing in the style guide about this subject. GuiRitter (talk) 19:48, 13 November 2023 (EST)

Nah, no nonstandard forms here. Our MOS strictly follows standardized its/it's usage, as dictated by the experts. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 19:57, 13 November 2023 (EST)