Surely more myth than history, but nonetheless it is very enjoyable and filled with parables. My favorites are the stories of the first seven kings of Rome, Coriolanus, and the Capitoline geese. It is required reading for anyone attempting to understand the Romans and how they understood their past. ( )

From the founding myth of Rome, narrated so eloquently by Virgil in The Aeneid, augmented with the tale of Romulus and Remus, Livy tells of the history of the republic to the beginning of the fourth century BC. This is an account that presents prosaic events enlivened with exciting moments of wars, political changes, the evolution from a monarchy to a republic, and great speeches by characters both unfamiliar and, sometimes, larger-than-life. Livy himself was born in Padua in 59 BC and died in 17 AD (about 40 years after the death of Virgil).

The early years of Roman history include the myth of Aeneas and the historic rule by Numa Pompilius whose life was also chronicled by Plutarch. There are battles like that of Lake Regillus and rulers both good and bad, the latter best represented by Canuleius the demagogue. My favorite was Cincinnatus who was the epitome of the farmer-soldier- ruler and who assumed the consulship only to return to the farm when his moment in the limelight had ended.

The many battles and usual successes highlight a barbarity that provides a foundation for that which is evident in the later empire (see Tacitus for that history). There are also the political battles between the Patricians and Plebes for control of the republic. In some ways they reminded me of more recent political contretemps in our own republic. It may come as a surprise that after many difficulties and resultant growth in the power of Rome, near the end of this part of Roman history the city itself is sacked by the Gauls. It must be the memory of that which explains some of the ruthlessness of the Romans under Caesar in the last days of the Republic (see Caesar's Gallic Wars for that story).

Ultimately Livy's history is readable both because of his engaging prose style and his ability to enliven most of the more critical events of early Roman history. With interpolated speeches from primary leaders the book reminded me of Thucydides masterpiece on the Peloponnesian Wars. ( )

Read for university this year. This was an intersection read and helpful if wanting to learn more about Ancient Rome. ( )

I'm going to read as much of Livy as I can stomach over the summer. My stomach comes into it because I don't have the patience for or the interest in military hijinx to see me through every page. And I fear that this volume is setting a high bar for those to follow. There's war here, sure, but a real stress on internal matters instead.

And those internal matters are, essentially, what people who haven't read Marx think Marx is: the patricians will come up with any excuse to maintain their privileges (inter alia, patriotism, security, religion, dignity, tradition...), and the plebeians will fold sometimes, but always come back and demand better treatment. The early history of Rome, as told by Livy, is class warfare. This is fascinating stuff, if a little repetitive (tribunes introduce a law to give the plebes more land; the senate rejects it; scuffles; appeals to the Greatness of Our State by the senate; plebes let it lie for a while so they can beat up on the Aequii or whomever; the law gets passed; the patricians find a new way to screw over the plebes; repeat from the top). But the repetition is made bearable by some great stories, and the overall pace. We move pretty quickly from year to year.

I was also surprized by Livy's ability to think critically about his sources. Everyone says Livy just reports miracles and tall tales as if they were true; in my experience, he's pretty good about highlighting when that's going on. On the other hand, he has no interest in making his story cohere, which is a bit sad. On the other hand, that lack of coherence means the reader can judge for herself why things happened as they did, and Livy's occasional moralizing never seems to heavy handed, or to influence his actual presentation. Looking forward to the second set of five.

Oh, one thing: the translation is kind of funny. Luce delights in using uncommon words when there's no real need for it; no doubt it's meant to represent archaisms in Livy himself, but it might annoy you. ( )

This has the best information of the early history of Rome: the truth about Remus and Romulus, who they were, the laws of Rome and the foundation of the Roman Catholic church of Jupiter.
This is only the first five books, to read more on the history of Rome the other books must be bought separately unless you get the pricey hard cover volume of Livy's complete available works. I say "available" for their is a large time period (covering the time of the Biblical New Testament times) that is said to have been lost, or was destroyed. ( )

"the models for that oratory which is to produce the greatest effect by securing the attention of hearers & readers, are to be found in Livy, Tacitus, Sallust, & most assuredly not in Cicero." - Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 17 Jan. 1810 [PTJ:RS 2:153-154]

"your Latin & Greek should be kept up assiduously by reading at spare hours: and, discontinuing the desultory reading of the schools. I would advise you to undertake a regular course of history & poetry in both languages, in Greek, go first thro’ the Cyropaedia ... in Latin read Livy, Caesar, Sallust Tacitus, Cicero’s Philosophies, and some of his Orations, in prose ..." - Thomas Jefferson to Francis Eppes, 6 Oct. 1820

"we have now such excellent elementary books in every branch of science as to make , Start insertion,every, End, subject as plain as a teacher can make it. ... in Antient history the first 20. vols of the Universal history. / Gillies’s history of the world, / Gillies’s history of Greece. / Livy, Sallust, Caesar, Taeches, Suadonurs." - Thomas Jefferson to Joseph Echols, 23 May 1822

"for a course of Antient history therefore, of Greece and Rome especially, I should advise the usual suite of Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Diodorus, Livy, Caesar, Suetonius, Tacitus and Dion, in their originals, if understood, and in translations if not." - Thomas Jefferson to George W. Lewis, 25 Oct. 1825

Livy's "The Early History of Rome" is a fascinating book. I'm not too familiar with ancient history, but I have heard of the rape of Lucrezia, and knew that the name Virginia had something to do with Roman history, so it was nice to finally read the actual details (such as they are) about these people. Reading about the constant wars with Rome's neighbors gets a little tedious, but then that's what life was like then. Livy also sometimes throws in a little story that while not really part of Roman history, are interesting just as a glimpse of life. For example he tells of a vestal virgin brought up on some kind of sexual charge, who was acquitted with the stern warning to "dress less elegantly" and to "stop telling jokes." ( )

Livy's still got style...

It's true that he's not perfect, but I like him...

I think that the philosophy of history he sets out at the beginning, in the preface, is very solid and useful, and, although it would have been possible to elaborate further on it, it is not really necessary to...

Also, I have always been impressed with Livy's status as a literary historian, and his ability to write a narrative is quite developed. And that's not to say that the style and the flow of the narrative isn't flawed, now and again...most commonly, perhaps, by offering parallel passages--one account says this, another, says that--and also, he sometimes, on the one hand, allows himself to wax a little too wordy, and other times, on the other hand, lets himself lean a little too heavily on the annalists and the chronological outline or perspective...but, if we forget to laugh at the Romans and their short books--this book of ours, for example, has five Roman books in it-- and actually learn to take it one book at a time, then the flaws, such as they are, become easier to navigate, just like it's easier to avoid collisions on the road, when you obey the speed limit.

And, in fact, with a little sympathy to the Roman point of view, in this, their own history, written by their own hand, it is easy to see this as a high-class offering...

And in fact, I find it refreshing to see a historian who is, although willing to set the story straight when a man or woman's honor is at stake, is yet still reluctant, and not eager, to fight and claw over meaningless minutiae, like these marvelous moderns, so pocked and marked with cynicism, and so settled and locked into their assumptions and their grudges and their permanent complaints...Livy is a breath of fresh air, of fresh mountain air, compared to all that. And, if he is a moral historian--and, among his countrymen, he was a popular one too--he is not 'moralizing' in the Puritan sense of the word, rather, he is moral in that he is possessed of broad sympathies, and he is as sensitive to the feelings as to the military, political, and social topics.

That doesn't make him a Puritan: far from it. And when you come to that, his work is as good, in my opinion, as any of the biblical books of the kings.

I don't think it's worth less because Livy doesn't conform to anybody's current or 19th or 20th century outlooks on history or what it should be, or because--horror of horrors!--he doesn't satiate the suspicious by quoting from sources every other line, using foot-notes & end-notes--babble-notes & non-sense notes!--or say, Polybius said, Plutarch said, Polycratus said...Dionysios of Pomegranate-Land, said....

In case you haven't been able to piece two and two together: if he had acted like that, nobody would have read it, and nobody would have cared, and nobody would have copied it...and no-one would have it now.

That's right--some lacuna (the small ones) are random, but others (the big ones) got more-or-less intentionally lacuna-ed by the Senate & People of Rome...or their heirs and copy-editors, as chance might have it...

But whatever favors fortune granted Livy--and popularity is no small favor--it just doesn't make sense to hate him just because he didn't act like someone who went to Harvard or Oxford...because he never did! (Although, in a way, he is similar to a certain popular amateur, who went to Harrow, instead of Oxford.)

I don't think that his work is invalidated because of what he doesn't conform to: I think that his own unique style and way of working is what makes his work well worth reading!

Yes, it's well worth it--once.

(9/10) ( )

Livy's History depicts the founding of Rome (before it was a Republic) and the legends that the city was founded on. Livy provides a very fun illustration of the early kings of Rome, which leads to it becoming a Republic. ( )

As I feared the original is not as good as the later summaries. Most of the work is familiar since I have read later authors who used Livy as a source. The original work suffers from translation. I would recommend Gibbon's retelling of Livy in "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire". His prose is much less convoluted and he skips the dull parts. ( )

Scholars now say it's legendary, but these are the stories every Roman knew --and every educated European or American until lately ( )

These are the traditional stories everyone should know-- Horatius
at the bridge, the rape of Lucretia etc. They may not be true, but
they are important background for the culture. ( )

The first five books of Livy's history of Rome provide a good overview of the city's (later to be an empire's) early days. As the introduction warns, Livy's history is rather moralistic in tone, but that does not prevent it from being informative. Livy shows the transformation of the city from a kingdom to a republic, and also highlights the tension between the patricians and the plebs.

I have the Barnes and Noble edition of this work. It was fairly easy to read, alhtough I have two complaints. The first is the lack of maps. It would have been helpful to follow the battles if one knew where they were occuring with respect to Rome. The second was the use of endnotes. As a general rule, I much prefer footnotes when reading to minimize amount of page turning necessary. Hovever, I would imagine that endnotes are cheaper, and the volume was relatively inexpensive. ( )

scanned through for a history of rome class.. very exciting work, can be read rapidly. ( )

The history of Rome from the very earliest days, is the story of the gradual but seemingly inevitable rise of the Roman people, from small community to towering empire. Full on unforgettable stories like Horatio holding off the entire Etruscan (?) army on his own whilst the rest of the Romans escape over the bridge. ( )

Books 1-5, Covers founding of the city, explusion of the Kings, founding of the Republic, etc. From approx 753BC to 390BC. Pretty dry stuff. I'm not terribly fond of Livy's style of writing. ( )

900 LIV 1

Livy's classic Roman history. ( )