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This book is one of the toughest books I have read in terms of personal conviction.

Do I hate this book ? No.
Do I love this book ? No .
But this book made me question the otherwise black and white convictions that I have had.

For me , as I started the book . I knew I should love Kira, my personal convictions demanded this . But was she really the hero that the novel made her to be ? Whatever she did , was it so different than what Andrei did. Both of them were driven by personal convictions whether it be personal gratification or belief in a social cause , which can also be considered as personal gratification . So , why was she made the undisputed Heroine?

For me, the undisputed hero of this novel is Andrei . His growth was tremendous and he always showed the strength of his character till the very last , where Madam Rand unnaturally decided to cut him off cause such nobel a character can never survive ; this is my only complain against Andrei Taganov.

Coming to think of it , I really liked Leo with his characteristic selfishness . He , I believe , represented "The Art of Selfishness" till the very end .
But, unfortunately I cannot say that for Kira. Personally, I cannot appreciate a lady who puts her entire hopes , aspiration, wishes etc on to a guy . She holds a mantel in her heart , an untouched mantel ; which I believe was not at all her responsibility or also was not something so exalted as the entire novel . Yes, I hoped in the end she would do something for herself but she again chose to follow her dreams , the dreams she thought Leo was capable of living. I don't understand her. I know my hatred towards her is a knee jerk reaction and I hope with time I can become un affected enough to see her as Rand made her . But till then , I despise her.

As a reader , I have no complain against the writing style. The closing chapter can be compared to a few of my favorite chapters. The heart wrenching desperation was very , very real unlike other "Individual V/s State" and "dystopic" materials I have read.

This book will not be one of my favorites , not yet but will surely be one of the books with the highest learning graph. ( )

I loved the writing in this book, and even though I didn't agree with so much of what the main characters did, I was still intrigued by them and wanted to get to know them. I found myself thinking about them when I wasn't reading, as though they were real people. Granted, I can't understand Kira's obsession with Leo, but I believe she had an inner strength despite all that. I would absolutely despise life in a socialist/communist state, and I have all the more respect and admiration now for those who fought/fight against the system. Rand's characters here may seem a bit extreme, but then again, so is blind adherence to a political system that eats its own. ( )

With more wisdom than most people accumulate in a lifetime, Ayn Rand started writing this novel when she was a mere 25 years old. She managed to escape Russia to settle in America in 1926, several years after the Russian revolution ended, and she witnessed first-hand socialist/communist principals put into action. If you haven’t personally experienced socialism you may naively imagine a philosophy of beauty, fairness, equality, and theoretical utopia. But in reality, it is a political system of repression and corruption generally dominated by evil bullies. There is yet to be a country that has successfully implemented the idealistic socialist government. Fortunately, Ayn Rand escaped before Stalin’s first ‘5 Year Economic Plan’ which caused a famine when between 5,000,000 and 8,000,000 people starved to death, and Stalin’s ‘Reign of Terror’ in 1937 and 1938 as over 1,000,000 people were executed… merely for rumored suspicious behavior or fabricated evidence of disrespectful acts against the Socialist/Communist Regime.

In the Forward of the 1st Edition of "We the Living" Ayn Rand wrote, “This story is not a novel about Soviet Russia. It is a novel about Man against the State. It is a story of Dictatorship… it could be anywhere, at any time.” Ayn Rand’s primary goal was to share her personal experience of living in a Socialist environment and above all else, she wanted to deliver a warning to help prevent a Socialist America.

"We the Living" is semi-autobiographical. The social, cultural, and political climate are all real. Ayn explained it is a fictional plot, but the main character Kira Argounova embodies Any Rand’s intellectual and moral values, and her unique philosophy of Objectivism. Kira’s boyfriend Leo was modeled after Ayn Rand’s true love.

So, what is "We The Living" about? To set the stage- the story begins as the revolution ends. The opening scene embodies the same atmosphere as the final scene of Pasternak’s "Dr. Zhivago". Eighteen-year-old Kira, along with her bourgeois family are returning to their home town of Petrograd however the city has been re-named Leningrad and their house, business, and personal belongings have been confiscated by the state. All over the country everything has come to a standstill because prior to the revolution industrial businesses, commercial enterprises and agriculture were largely owned by the non-communist bourgeoise. The USSR government now owns everything. Since the previous owners were not registered communists (and therefore considered to be the enemies of the state - much like old white men are perceived today by many radical thinkers in the United States) they now have zero opportunities for jobs, food rations, or anything else. All products (including food and medical supplies) are divvied out by how well a person fought in the revolution, how subservient they are to the new dictators, or by bribes to friends and acquaintances in power. All survivors are struggling to resume life in peacetime despite the fact their entire existence has been turned upside down and inside out. Every person has to make the vital decision – to give in to the new system and go against everything they believe in or hold strong on their principals (of freedom and individuality) at any cost.

The plot- Kara falls in love with Leo because he shares her social, moral and political views, but in an effort to survive she secretly has an affair with a high ranking communist- a member of the G.P.U (secret service police). The story is intense, full of drama, and absolutely horrifying. Through Ayn Rand’s eyes we see life in all its terror and raw unfiltered pain where everyone lives in fear. No-one can be trusted. Not neighbors. Not friends. Not family. And no one is safe. Not even upper echelon Communist Party members. And in actuality, conditions got a thousand times worse after Ayn Rand’s timely escape.

"We The Living" is by far the most powerful novel I’ve read in 2019. ( )

Stupendo! una storia d'amore e la storia di un paese nell'era dell'ideologia comunista non supportato dal coerente comportamento di funzionari avidi di potere e denaro. Una protagonista , un'eroina che mi ha emozionato fino alle lacrime. ( )

A dark novel about live during in Communist Russia. A young woman full of dreams about building bridges finds her future denied because she is the child of former aristocrats. Although her family down lives in deepest poverty, because they were once wealthy, they find themselves on the verge of starvation and constantly fearful of arrest. Unwilling to give up, the protagonist finds love with a man who shares her values. But when he gets tuberculosis, she becomes a willing prostitute to pay for his medical care. She becomes the mistress of a man high up in the Communist ranks. He is obsessed with her, and cannot understand why he has fallen in love with a woman who abhors all he values. Slowly, his love for her makes him realize the corruption at the heart of the party.

The book ends tragically for all concerned and has the type of gray, grinding plot common to most post-apocalyptic novels. ( )

I adore Ayn Rand, her ideologies and her novels. This is the best. The stage set up for this novel (Russia), how the conditions were and what people had to go through are explained in the best way possible. Kira is a very strong character who holds on to her beliefs and never gives in. I liked Leo in the initial part of the novel but seeing him losing himself by the end of the story, I didn't approve of him. On the other hand, Andrei is very remarkable. I could not stand it to read about his suicide. Irina and Sasha were the two other prominent characters for me in the novel. I noticed that Ayn Rand has very strong opinions, she is kind of rebellious and she shoves the truth into the reader's face hard and fast. What amazes me is her thoughts about love. I literally cried reading the departure of Irina and Sasha to the Siberian prison. It broke my heart. Last but not least, one person fighting against a whole country and not giving in until the last breath is very heroic and the hero of We the Living, Kira lives in my heart forever. I personally have a wonderful imagination (I'm not bragging about it) but when I read the lines written by AR, I see myself watching the whole scene with my very own eyes. That is the best I can put into words about how much I love her narration. Ayn Rand is a true legend! Her characters are very distinct, not like any regular hero, heroine.. even the villain is so remarkable, that you will fall in love with him.

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A window into life in the USSR. This book was was wonderful and utterly depressing at the same time.

I forgot how sad this story was but I guess there is not much happiness in the lifestyle
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I didn't love this book but I was glad I read it. The plot was so sad and the characters' lives so bleak that I could only read it during summer, outdoors, on sunny days (it took me a while as a result); but Rand's rich descriptions of daily life in post-Revolution Russia were highly rewarding.

A fantastic novel depicting the effects of the Russian Revolution on the lives of three main characters - Kira Argounova (a young socialite whose family must now live in poverty), and the two men she is romantically involved with, one a revolutionary, the other a government official.
Although depressing and tragic at times, the reader gets absorbed into this world and can sympathize with the characters,
Definitely a recommended read. ( )

WE The Living-by Ayn Rand- This is a sweet and touching story. The main character is like a mirror of her own image. What I mean is she has both a positive and negative side. She has two sides like a mirror. Both sides are real except one is real, the other is an image. Kira, the character, is strong-willed but also weak. She is a good hearted person but she does have a bad side which she struggles with.She is a very likable character and seems very real and believability.
There is sadness within the story but the reader is easily drawn to this woman as there is something about her that most of us can relate to. Whether it is yourself or a relative, there is something real and dependable. It is a beautiful read with depth and style that will always be classy. ( )

Some good bits, loads of extremist bad bits. I stopped caring about the heroine midway through the book, and when she finally, dramatically, dies, I was glad. The main themes of this book Rand expands in later works, and the ones she doesn't later touch upon are not worth struggling through page after page of the poorly written struggles of pathetic people. ( )

Would it be strange to wish that this book had been written by [a:Irene Nemirovsky|5772020|Irene Nemirovsky|http://www.goodreads.com/assets/nophoto/nophoto-U-50x66.jpg]? I'm not saying that Nemirovsky should have written of life under the Soviets or that I wish this book had her more subtle touch. I wouldn't change a word of it, but swapping Nemirovsky's name for [a:Ayn Rand|432|Ayn Rand|http://photo.goodreads.com/authors/1168729178p2/432.jpg]'s would make this a better book. (Also, lose any introduction or afterword.)

I realize this sounds like a strange notion, but when you pick up a Nemirovsky book, you know that whatever it's flaws, the main goal is to tell a story about flawed human beings coping with the vicissitudes of life. "We the Living" begins in 1922 with the return of the Argounova family to Petrograd after the civil war that followed the Russian Revolution of 1917. The action principally follows Kira, the oldest daughter, who is eighteen at the beginning of the story, but as the novel proceeds it expands to include members of Kira's extended family, as well as her friends. So we get a view of the horrors of Soviet Russia from several views, including that of young party members. One of these, a man named Andrei, who is a member of the secret police and a hero of the revolution, falls madly in love with Kira. However, she herself has already fallen in love with Leo, the son of an aristocrat.

Rand is a powerful witness to the criminality of the Soviets: their corruption, their arbitrary use of power, their lack of principles. The powers-that-be talk about liberating the people, but instead they starve them, brutalize them and force them to volunteer hours to hold on to menial jobs, while corrupt party officials game the system for their own good and flaunt their ill-gotten riches. Though the dialog is sometimes clunky, Rand's writing is very evocative, conveying the destitution of the regime, the way it crushes some and corrupts others. Perhaps most heartbreaking is the plight of men such as Andrei and Stepan Timoshenko, men who fought against the injustice of the Czars only to be betrayed by the new regime.

If Nemirovsky's name were on the title page, this would be a tale of the way that a brutal system damages people, and in Kira, we would see the odd girl whose reaction to the Soviets is flawed and off-kilter because she is just a human being reacting to a terrible situation. In truth Kira, like Gutierrez' Juan Moreira, is a character whose thoughts and actions I did not always agree with, yet whose willingness to stick to her ideals, even if it means death, makes her admirable.

Yet, because this is a Rand novel, Kira is not just a flawed human being, but Rand's stand-in. Her off-kilter philosophy is meant to be the lesson of the book, and this is where the book's major flaw lies. "We the Living" presents us something peculiar, a novel in which the narrator is trustworthy but the author is not. Rand is a great witness of the life under the Soviets, but her interpretation of things (as reflected by Kira) leaves a lot to be desired.

For Kira/Rand's view is not that the Soviets are an elite using power only to serve themselves while millions toil for little, but is that they scorn men like Leo, whose lives are more meaningful than those of ordinary men. This is perplexing, since it's never clear what makes Leo so great, except that he's handsome, haughty and selfish.

If this were a "Brave New World"-style dystopia, where the contentment of the many bought at the cost of the creative or the different, this would be a reasonable objection. However, it's so clear that talk of the proletariat is just window dressing for a self-serving regime, that Kira's inability to see this makes her seem sort of clueless.

Even worse, when Andrei once asks her, "Don't you know that we can't sacrifice millions for the sake of the few?" her response is not that this is precisely what the Soviets are doing are that you cannot bring about justice through injustice, but the following rant:

What are your masses but millions of dull, shriveled, stagnant souls that have no thoughts of their own, no will of their own, who eat and sleep and chew helplessly the words others put into their brains?

So, this should be a brilliant and powerful novel, did it not stop so often to remind me that it was in service to Rand's agenda, her idea of the proper places of the aristocracy and the rabble, the warped views of her stand-in.

Rand meant this book as being not just about Russia or Communism, but about totalitarianism. However, the book falls short compared to Orwell's 1984, which sees to the true dark heart of dictatorship in which power is not a means but an end. ( )

Just be yourself.
Hasn't that been parents' advice to kids since the dawn of time?
Don't try to impress people by putting on a show.
Don't just tell people what you think they want to hear.
Be who you are, and those who appreciate your genuine character will be true friends. I think this is the only book where Ayn Rand is true to herself, without putting on the big überconservative show which makes her later works so irritating.

What's that?
You think maybe Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead represent Ayn's true self?
Well, I can't prove you wrong, but I don't think that's the case. We the Living doesn't smack of ulterior motives the way those other books do. It contains no larger-than-life robberbaron supermen, no fifteen-page speeches, and no fortunes built on miracle inventions. Where Altas Shrugged was really just a platform to espouse Rand's "philosophy" of Objectivism, We the Living is refreshingly 100% Objectivism-free (see my review of Anthem for more details). Better still, it has authentic three-dimensional characters who seem like they might be actual people Ayn knew. This is historical fiction, after all. Many of these events actually happened.



We the Living tells the semi-autobiographical story of college-aged Kira Argounova, whose upper middle class family flees St. Petersburg during the 1917 revolution, and then returns in 1922, trying to make a new life for themselves within the communist system. When they show up at the doorstep of their former townhouse off Nyevsky Prospekt, they discover it has been seized and divided into a multiple-family dwelling. They are advised to apply for a license to live in one of the units if they feel a particular attachment to the old homestead, but as part of the hated former petty bourgeoisie, they should be aware their chances are slim. A similar scene occurs in [book:Doctor Zhivago|9782059] (but in DZ, the family actually obtains residence in their old home). It seems either such occurances were common, or perhaps Pasternak was influenced by We the Living. Food is rationed. Work is obtained only through a state agency, once the applicant has jumped through the many hoops needed to obtain a work license. Since political loyalty is valued more than ability, Kira discovers that many of her least-promising former classmates have risen to positions of authority over her. They hang around the city's most fashionable bars, dressed to the nines in leather finery unavailable to citizens outside the Party. They smoke tobacco the proles could never get their hands on, and enjoy luxuries like fresh fruit, which Kira secretly covets. Reading through these parts, one can practically feel the resentment rising in Ayn's blood as she writes it. Through a paper-thin veneer of fiction, anybody can see this is her story, narrated very personally, with a ring of truth her other novels lack.

Consider how Ayn's life closely mirrors Argounova's: Ayn's father had owned a profitable pharmacy in St Petersburg before the revolution, just as Kira's father owned a successful textiles factory. Both Ayn and Kira's families fled St. Petersburg to the Crimea in 1917, fearing for their daughters' safety. As I said, this novel contains events which actually happened to real people.



Ayn and Kira both returned to St.Petersburg (now Petrograd) in 1922, to find the social and political changes described in this book. They each managed to enroll at Petrograd University, after considerable bureaucratic resistance, and both found their career prospects after graduation to be severely limited, due to the continued stigma of their fathers' pre-Revolutionary social status. While both tried to leave the Soviet Union, only Ayn made it to America. Kira died at the border, which demands some explanation. Why did Ayn make the choice as an author to deny Kira a life in the West? Ayn always had a weakness for melodrama; did she kill Kira for the pure intense tragedy of it? Did she think it would put greater empahsis on the injustices of the Soviet system? Why else end the novel with a sympathetic character both bleeding and freezing to death, alone in the dark, in the middle of nowhere? It seems a bit too cruel, even for a novel whose entire point is outrage and cruelty.

If you enjoy deriding Ayn Rand's wooden characters or her preachy, didactic writing style, this book won't be much fun for you. But if you're a more thoughtful type, who is curious about where her ideas came from, this is the book that tells it all. Sure, We the Living has hints of the moral certitude that makes Atlas Shrugged so shrill and irksome, but the story is heartfelt and the characters believable. Unfortunately, this best of Rand's novels also happens to be her first, so maybe she should have quit while she was ahead. ( )

".......My heart is a tractor raking the soil,
My soul is smoke from the factory oil..." = page 163

I just 're-found" this old paperback in my old backpack stashed under my parents house. I never finished it. I originally found it in the back seat pocket hold-it-all on a Garuda flight from Indonesia...wondering if we'd ever make it through the electrical storm- the plane kept suddenly dropping and the lights flickering & I was frantically searching for the map/plan of the planes exit doors (there wasn't a map ;( so I started reading We the Living to calm my nerves. Back then Garuda pilots weren't well trained. Anyhow the actual paperback has traveled far. Inside front and back pages has listed various pilots who had picked up the book and read it between flights..and where they flew to - flight hours etc..also interesting reading. (Ballarat to Bermuda to Nassau to Mexico city to Acapulco to HNL to Nani to Sydney to Heathrow to Bangkok to Delhi to Tehran to London, to Sydney, to Longreach, to Djkarta....

I think I finally fell asleep after too many Arrack toddies...(Batavia Arrack is distilled in Indonesia. It is the "rum" of Indonesia & made from sugar cane & I used to like it in coffee though the arrack bought in roadside cafes was more moonshine than the real thing & infinitely stronger somehow). Before falling asleep I remembered thinking there were some political similarities between Russia and Indonesia at the time - well the police corruption to start with anyway and Arrack seemed to be the Indonesian peasant's vodka.. (1970's).

this was an excellent book. i really like rand and her books. i thought that i'd read this one but didn't remember so read it again/ course it turned out i hadn't read it yet. this book really gives you the feel of russian oppression. it takes you to the inside of both sides and gives you an interesting view. and of course she'd know. that's another reason i like this author she was there. also her philosophy and perspective is one that will make you think. ( )

Unlike Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand’s We The Living is a semi-autobiographical account of Kira Argounova’s rebellion against Vladimir Lenin’s new Soviet government in post-revolutionary Petrograd (St. Petersburg). It is a novel reminiscent of Pasternak’s Doctor Zhivago; both scathing indictments of an oppressive proletariat culture and the subsequent suppression of individual freedom.
As usual Ayn Rand is verbose and pedantic but at her best when describing the deprived lives of the once prosperous and productive citizens of Petrograd as they struggle against the stifling control of a massive, brutal and inefficient centralized government. She is at her worst – as usual - when preaching her philosophy of Objectivism/individualism in long, drawn out monologues that she passed as dialog, which happened all too often.
A good read, taken altogether, but more fascinating for its detailed, insightful portrayal of post-revolutionary Russia’s moral and cultural decline than in its somewhat predictable plot. ( )

Everyone hates on Ayn Rand, but I straight up loved this book. I read it long before I had any concept of who Rand was or what she believed, and thus think it can stand alone. ( )

Rand's first novel and not as well known as Atlas Shrugged.

This is a mostly autobiograhical look at young Ayn's life. I enjoyed reading about post - revolution Russia. It really helpd me comprehend their people and way of life during that time a little better. It's an amazing book and I can't recommend it highly enough. Rand is a master. ( )

After more than 30 years, I still remember crying at the end of this book. ( )

Ayn Rand's ideas are so controversial and notorious I think it's hard for many to evaluate her novels fairly. I am an admirer, even if not an uncritical one, and think if you read only one novel of hers, it probably should be Atlas Shrugged--that's the book that best represents her philosophy if you want to understand her and her influence. But We The Living, Rand's first novel, is more approachable--much shorter, far less didactic and with characters that are more human and complex than the almost abstractions you see in her other novels.

Maybe that's because, as Rand herself said, We the Living "is as near an autobiography" as she'd ever write, that though the plot and characters are from her imagination, "the background is not." The setting is revolutionary Russia in the twenties, which is where Rand came of age before she came to America. The novel revolves around a love triangle: Kira, the central protagonist, is in love with Leo, a counter-revolutionary, and in order to save his life gets involved with Andrei, an idealistic communist and a decent man. In many ways I find Andrei the most interesting, complex and sympathetic character in the novel--not what you might expect from Rand's reputation. But there may be no better way to show how the Communist Revolution betrayed what is human than through someone who fought for its ideals.

This, on the other hand, is definitely Rand's darkest work--but I think it's rewarding to read particularly as a bleak but vivid portrait of Soviet Russia from a keen observer that escaped it. I personally find Rand's style striking and lyrical; there are many passages that are memorable and quotable and it's a compelling read with a powerful impact. ( )

In short, We the Living is aesthetically imperfect. The characters often give unnatural speeches, the descriptive passages do not support the story in the way they should, and the language is sometimes awkward. Still, it is a good early description of life in Soviet Russia, and it has quite an entertaining story despite all the gloominess.

The novel has perhaps too many characters, since there is not enough space to develop them all fully. For example, we do not know how the doubts the characters have. Some characters seem to be there only for Rand to make a point, and do not help the story. The protagonist is somewhat flat (more about that later). Some of the minor characters seem pointless, but some of them are interesting and could have a larger role.

Please stop reading if you want to avoid knowing details about the story.

In the end, we do not really get to know the protagonist Kira at all. It is remarkable that while we follow her through the whole novel, we never really get a good idea of what she wants. In the beginning she wants to build bridges, for one reason or another. Then this dream is taken away from her. She begins to love two men (or at least one), but we never really understand the emotional effects of this love, and it remains possible that it is not love at all but just an obsession. As the novel progresses, she grows always more negative, wanting to escape for the sake of escaping. This might work as a dramatization of how totalitarianism destroys the ideals of a person, but since Kira's ideals were so vague to begin with, the effect is weak.

An interesting thing is that Rand seems to have changed her opinions after writing We the Living. She puts a lot of rhetorical effort into making Leo the bad guy and Andrei the good guy. It is as if there was bad potential in Leo and good potential in Andrei, and this potential is fulfilled in the end. Yet Rand, writing years after the publication of the novel, indicates that Leo is philosophically the good guy, and that it is only the evil system that makes him bad. Accordingly, Andrei is a fool, although a fool with courage and some integrity. I think that Rand is making a forced, unjustified reinterpretation of her old text.

While not completely innocent, We the Living for the most part manages to escape being just a long sermon (which is something for which Rand is often criticized). ( )

We the Living by Ayn Rand is not the type of book you want to read if feeling a little down. It will drag you so far under the depths of happiness that you may find it difficult to ever again emerge. The devastating results of communistic thought and government is portrayed with great pathos and conviction. It is clear Rand suffered mightily under this system, and wants desperately to convict the world that not only is communism in practice a horror, but the premise itself is one that should be rejected. She writes as compelling a case as I have ever read of the fallacy that communism in any way is noble. To adopt the premises inherent in communistic systems is to subjugate the greatest potentials of the individual or excellence or unique achievement to the lowest common denominator of the ugly masses. What is particularly frightening to me as I read this book is how similar the news of today in America is to the beginnings of communism is the USSR. I pray many people look closely again at Rand's work and heed its warning.