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1Rushing_Scott
Jan 25, 2012, 8:03 pm

Hello! I've been digging around quite a bit and trying to find some answers to this question, and I wonder if you can help me.

My question is this: Off the top of your head (or not, Google it if you want, haha) how many vampires books/novels can you name - regardless of length, genre, etc. - that feature only vampires as the main characters? And I mean exclusively, without humans or any other supernatural characters?

So far I've only been able to find two or three.

Thanks!
- R.S.

Oh, and if you're stumped and can't think of anything either, comment anyway. I want to see how many people it takes to get to the center of this Tootsie pop! And if it's just one, then good, but I want to see! haha

2BookLizard
Jan 26, 2012, 12:43 am

If there are no humans, what do they eat? LOL.

Anne Rice's Interview With the Vampire. Louis and Lestat are the main characters - the reporter is just there to help frame the "interview."

Richelle Mead's Vampire Academy. The main character is a dhampir - offspring of a vampire/human match, but almost everyone in the book is either a vampire or a dhampir.

Kristen & PC Cast's House of Night series is almost exclusively vampires. The main character was a human and still has ties to the human community (i.e. family & ex-boyfriend), but pretty much everyone else is a vampire.

Jeaniene Frost's Night Huntress series - she's a half-vampire, he's a vampire.

Some of the later books in certain romance series feature vampires for both the male and female love interest. There might be other creatures lurking about, but the 2 main characters are vamps:

--Lynsay Sand's Argeneau series, in particular 1 or 2 of the Rogue Hunter books
--Kerrelyn Sparks' Love at Stake series - has some werewolves and such floating around, but they have their own books and are only minor characters in these books.
--JR Ward's Black Dagger Brotherhood - Lover Avenged & Lover Mine

3Rushing_Scott
Jan 26, 2012, 6:13 pm

Hmm.... Well they eat humans still of course. I don't mean no humans at all, I mean no humans as main characters (and a main character defined as someone who narrates or significantly contributes to the plotline).

Anne Rice and Jeaniene Frost are the two that I had found! As for the others that you mentioned, I consider those violations of my definition. HALF-vampire and a human as a main character still don't count.
As for the romance ones, I suppose I'll give you those because I hadn't heard of them, but you mentioned the "later" books, so does that mean it wasn't that way for the whole series?

Thank you for your input! ;

P.S. Do you have an opinion on why so many vampire books are this way - featuring more humans than vampires - even though they profess themselves to be 'vampire' books??

4BookLizard
Jan 27, 2012, 12:54 am

No - not half-vampire and human. In Vampire Academy, the narrator is a half/vamp, her BFF is a vamp, and her love interest is also a half/vamp. Her deadbeat Dad is a human, but he doesn't show-up until later in the series. In the House of Night Series, the main character becomes a vampire and goes to an all-vampire boarding school. Her love interest is a vamp but her ex-boyfriend is human and becomes kind of like her Renfield.

The reason why so many vampire books feature humans is because you get built-in conflict and drama. This is especially important for romance novels. It's the whole star-crossed lovers thing. They come from different worlds and have to learn to trust one another - she has to trust that he won't suck her dry and he has to trust that she won't drive a stake through his heart while he's asleep. Most of them are also "closed world" which means that humans don't know that vampires exists and the vampires want to keep it that way. So for half the novel, the vamp is trying to pretend to be human and the human is trying to figure out this "mysterious stranger."

Most of the series I mentioned do start out as human/vampire because of the built-in drama it creates, but that gets old after awhile and so the secondary characters start hooking up. Also, they're "vampire series" because that's how the books are related to each other - through the vampire side of the family (some vampires can be born, not just turned). The Argeneaus are an extended vampire family, all of Sparks' vampires work together, and the Black Dagger Brotherhood is made up of vampires (and the first book is actually vamp/half-vamp.) Christine Feehan's Dark Carpathians series would also fit in with this group.

Another series that's mostly vampire is MaryJanice Davidson's Queen Betsy series. She becomes a vampire and discovers she's destined to be Queen of the Vampires, and her king is all vamp. Her family is human, but most of the action takes place in the vamp world.

If you don't have humans, then you need another group to provide the conflict. Jaye Well's Sabina Kane is a half vampire/half mage who was raised by vamps but starts to fall for a mage (who are the enemy, of course). Keri Arthur's Riley Jensen is a half vampire/half werewolf torn between the 2 different sides of her nature. Kresley Cole's Immortals After Dark series features vampires and werewolves and Valkyrie (oh my!).

Another reason why so many vampire books feature humans is that they're urban fantasy. The setting is a contemporary city - some place recognizable but with vampires and other paranormal beings. Places like Hamilton's St. Louis, Kenyon's New Orleans, Huff's Toronto, Harris' Louisiana, etc.

Hope this helps!

5Rushing_Scott
Jan 29, 2012, 2:24 pm

Thank you very much for the in-depth response! Now I have plenty more things to look into to complete my research!

The real reason that I was asking, beyond curiosity, is because I am writing an urban fantasy myself, and I'm discovering that my premise is somewhat unique, which is in equal parts exciting and daunting. Now I'm afraid that I'll mess up, but I'm also fairly sure now that I have something to contribute to this genre.

There is only one very small subordinate human character in my novel - all the rest of my characters are full vampires, and were from the get-go. The story revolves around them and, though there is plenty of internal conflict, the main conflict is presented by other vampires. It's also in third-person, which seems to be something of an anomaly among UF's as well - most of them are in first-person, right?

Anyway, I don't want to bore you, so I'll cut off here before I really start rambling, haha. Thanks again for your help! I've just started reading Jeaniene Frost's series today!

6BookLizard
Jan 29, 2012, 9:22 pm

Yeah, most of them are first-person. Glad I could help. Good luck with your novel.

7naimahaviland
Feb 7, 2012, 6:57 pm

Now, that sounds like another question: why are so many UFs in first person? Maybe the reader is thought to identify more if they're reading the action as "I did this ... I did that..."

Interesting thread :)

8destiny13
Nov 7, 2012, 12:23 pm

id rather have a vampire

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