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Bart Ehrman and the Quest of the Historical Jesus of Nazareth

by Frank R. Zindler (Editor), Robert M. Price (Editor)

Other authors: Richard Carrier (Contributor), Earl Doherty (Contributor), David Fitzgerald (Contributor), D. M. Murdock (Contributor), Rene Salm (Contributor)

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A collection of essays dealing with the book written by Bart Ehrman, Did Jesus Exist? The authors come from a variety of backgrounds, and as with any collection, some of the essays are better written than others. With the exception of the smug logorrhea of Richard Carrier, they were all highly readable and erudite. I think it helps that a lot of the essays were written by Frank Zindler, and he knows how to write, and to edit his writing. He has the proper mix of serious and lighthearted, and with his scientific mind, he cuts through illogic like butter. A highly worthwhile read, but not a short one. If you only have one night to write your essay, and this is your book of choice, I recommend you stick with the Zindler essays; you can get enough material there. ( )
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THIS BOOK IS DEDICATED
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Repeated forgeries and falsifications create a well-founded suspicion that all the cases spoken of concerning the person called Jesus Christ are made cases, on purpose to lug in, and that very clumsily, some broken sentences from the Old Testament, and apply them as prophecies of those cases; and that so far from his being the son of God, he did not even exist as a man -- that he is merely an imaginary or allegorical character, as Apollo, Hercules, Jupiter and all the deities of antiquity were.   There is no history written at the tie Jesus Christ is said to have lived that speaks of the existence of such a person, even as a man.
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The struggle engaged here is not just another scholarly quarrel.  (Foreword)
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Bart Ehrman's Did Jesus Exist? : the Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth may very well prove to be the last book written by an undisputedly first-rank scholar of the New Testament attempting to prove the existence of a Jesus specifically of Nazareth.   (Preface)
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This collection of essays addresses Bart Ehrman's book Did Jesus Exist?   (Introduction, "Surprised by Myth Overkill")
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Albert Schweitzer in his From Reimarus to Wrede: a History of Research on the Life of Jesus [1906] was already discovering that every scholar claiming to have uncovered the 'real' Jesus seemed to have found a mirror instead; investigators found Jesus to be a placeholder for whatever values they themselves held dear.   (Chapter 7, "Will the Real Jesus Please Stand Up?: Is the 'Jesus of History' any more real that the 'Jesus of Faith'" by David Fitzgerald)
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Luke doesn't tell us how Jesus passed through the midst of the lynch-mob, but early Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox traditions have it that Jesus jumped into the air to evade the mob.  So, since escaping the mob and arriving in Capernaum are events recorded in the same Lukan sentence, we must suppose (unless, of course, this is a seam indicating the process point where someone has tampered with our text!) that Jesus did indeed (1)launch into the air from the top edge of Nazareth Hill, (2) shoot like an artillery shell for 25 miles, and (3)land without cratering the Capernaum synagogue. (Chapter 17, "Bart Ehrman and the Body of Jesus of Nazareth" by Frank R. Zindler)
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What test could we do to learn if any claim regarding any one of the unknown millions of the past is true or false if he evaded the notice of all the writers of the time and left no physical remains that could yield clues to his identity?  Could Jesus of Nowherespecific be detected if we had a time machine"   How could we recognize him if none of the gospels' identifying features were left for which to search and we couldn't know for sure that we had parked the Tardis at the right place and time?  (Chapter 19, "Bart Ehrman and the Cheshire Cat of Nazareth" by Frank R. Zindler)
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Like Alice in Wonderland, the reader of this essay has just witnessed the progressive dismantling and dissolution of a fascinating creation of the human mind.  Like the Cheshire Cat, who could not be beheaded because he had already lost his body, Jesus of Nazareth could not be 'beheaded' by the loss of his Nazareth identity.  New Testament critics including Bart Ehrman had already hacked away most of his body by the time that empty excavations at Nazareth had erased 'the testimony of the empty tomb' at Jerusalem. (Chapter 19, "Bart Ehrman and the Cheshire Cat of Nazareth" by Frank R. Zindler)
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When New Testament scholar Bart Ehrman published Did Jesus Exist? The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth, he not only attempted to prove the historical reality of a man called “Jesus of Nazareth,” he sharply criticized scholars who have sought to develop a new paradigm in the study of Christian origins—scholars who have claimed that Jesus was a mythical, not historical, figure, and that the traditional, Jesus-centered paradigm for studying the origins of Christianity must be replaced by an actual science of Christian origins. In the present volume, some of those scholars respond to Ehrman’s treatment of their research and findings, showing how he has either ignored, misunderstood or misrepresented their arguments. They present evidence that “Jesus of Nazareth” was no more historical than Osiris or Thor. Several contributors question not only the historicity of “Jesus of Nazareth,” they present evidence that the site of present-day Nazareth was not inhabited at the time Jesus and his family should have been living there.
[retrieved 10/27/2014 from Amazon.com]

CONTENTS (from the Kindle ed.):
Foreword by Frank R. Zindler
Preface by Frank R. Zindler
Introduction by Robert M. Price

Part I.  Ehrman's Arguments Engaged
Chapter One.  Bart Ehrman: Paradigm Policeman by Robert M. Price
Chapter Two. How Not to Defend Historicity by Richard Carrier
Chapter Three.  The Phallic 'Savior of the World' Hidden in the Vatican by Acharya S / D. M. Murdock
Chapter Four. Cognitive Dissonance: the Ehrman-Zindler Correspondence by Frank R. Zindler
Chapter Five. Did the Earliest Christians Regard Jesus as 'God'? by Earl Doherty
Chapter Six. 'Mythicist Inventions' Creating the Mythical Christ from the Pagan Mystery Cults by Earl Doherty
Chapter Seven. Will the Real Jesus Please Stand Up? by David Fitzgerald
Chapter Eight. Is Bart Ehrman Qualified to Write About Christian Origins? by Frank R. Zindler
Chapter Nine. Bart Ehrman and the Art of Rhetorical Fallacy by Frank R. Zindler
Chapter Ten. Bart Ehrman's Most Important Critical Method by Frank R. Zindler

Part II: The Problem of Nazareth
Chapter Eleven. Bart's Subtitle by Frank R. Zindler
Chapter Twelve. Archaeology, Bart Ehrman, and the Nazareth of 'Jesus' by René Salm
Chapter Thirteen. Mark's 'Jesus from Nazareth of the Galilee' by Frank R. Zindler
Chapter Fourteen. Was there a Historical 'Jesus of Nazareth'? by D. M. Murdock 

Part III. Crucified Messiahs
Chapter Fifteen. "Key Data" and the Crucified Messiah: a Critique of pages 156-74 of Did Jesus Exist? by Earl Doherty
Chapter Sixteen. Bart Ehrman and the Crucified Messian by Frank R. Zindler

Part IV: Farewell to Earth
Chapter Seventeen. Bart Ehrman and the Body of Jesus of Nazareth by Frank R. Zindler
Chapter Eighteen. The Epistle to the Hebrews and Jesus Outside the Gospels by Earl Doherty
Chapter Nineteen. Bart Ehrman and the Cheshire Cat of Nazareth by Frank R. Zindler
Chapter Twenty. Ehrman's Concluding Case Against Mythicism by Earl Doherty

Envoi
Chapter Twenty-One. Bart Ehrman and the Emperor's New Clothes a.k.a. Frank R. Zindler
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